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Woe is us... We're Doomed!!!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by JonnyBaws, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. JonnyBaws

    JonnyBaws Well-Known Member

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    Before we bow down and hail Spurs as the greatest team ever assembled and consign our motley crew to the nether regions of mid-table obscurity, can I ask you have a look below at the "possible" best 11s, I know they will "more" depth to their squad and as most have said, modern game is a squad game, but bear in mind Spurs have been building this squad for a few years, we've only really started last year.

    I'll assume both will play a similar 4-2-3-1 System

    = Equal
    > Better
    < Worse

    Fill them in guys...

    Mignolet Loris

    Johnson Walker
    Agger Dawson
    Toure Vertonghen
    Enrique Rose (poss. Coentrao)

    Lucas Paulinho
    Gerrard Dembele

    Aspas Chadli
    Coutinho Holtby (Lamela if they sign him)
    Suarez Willian

    Sturridge Saldado

    I make no apologies for being fanatical, maybe blinkered at times, but they look pretty well matched to me.
    Be interested in what you guys think.
     
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  2. THE FOOL

    THE FOOL Well-Known Member

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    At the end of the day Liverpool are the best team in the world, i refuse to hear anything otherwise.
    WE are certainly better than ****ing Spurs.


    To be slightly serious, i dont think we are to far off spurs, as Man United have shown a team of superstars can be beaten by a Superstar team.
     
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  3. I don't agree with your line-up and some of the players you chose have not signed so I've changed it:

    Mignolet < Loris

    Johnson = Walker

    Agger > Dawson

    Toure < Vertonghen

    Enrique = Ekkoute

    Lucas > Paulinho (purely based on premier League experience and Brazilians needing time to settle)

    Gerrard = Dembele

    Aspas = Chadli

    Coutinho > Lennon

    Suarez = Bale

    Sturridge < Saldado



    Three in Spurs favour
    Three in our favour
    Five equal


    The squad depth is the killer.
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Pretty much agree with Gerrez.

    It's when you then look at benches that's when it becomes worrying

    Jones < Friedel
    Wisdom = Naughton
    Skrtel < Kaboul
    Alberto < Capoue
    Allen > Townsend
    Sterling < Defoe

    That's their bench from the last game and ours (with Skrtel in instead of Ibe to match the positions)
    That also doesn't include Siggurdson/Adebayor who would definitely make the bench for us.
    Borini
     
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  5. Whole Lotta Lovren

    Whole Lotta Lovren Active Member

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    Whilst typing this I'm going to completely reserve judgement until I've filled all the blanks in, here goes...

    Mignolet = Loris

    Johnson < Walker
    Agger > Dawson
    Toure < Vertonghen
    Enrique > Rose (poss. Coentrao)

    Lucas = Paulinho
    Gerrard > Dembele

    Aspas (?) Chadli
    Coutinho > Holtby (Lamela if they sign him)
    Suarez > Willian

    Sturridge (?) Saldado

    The places where I've put ? are where I believe it's not really fair to judge just yet. My judgements suggest Liverpool come out on top purely through the comparisons you've made. However it is quite an unfair way of looking at it as if you were to compare Willian to Coutinho say, rather than Suarez, Willian may well come out on top. Similar arguments can be made for Vertonghen being better than Agger, and Dawson better than (or equal to) Toure.

    I'm sad to say Spurs have a stronger squad than us. Not a fan of Spurs at all, but they are starting to have real strength in depth as well as a manager who I believe will go on to be a real success in the future.

    That being said, in 5 years time I'm still backing us to have overtaken them again once more. I've got a lot of (hopefully not misplaced) faith in the current setup and I really think we will prosper from a bit of stability and a strong, firm backroom team.
     
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  6. Enricky.

    Enricky. Well-Known Member
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    Gerrez, like crumpet, I'd go with evens for Mignolet and Lloris, however I agree with the rest <ok>
     
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  7. Breakingbad14

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    I think player for player Liverpool and spurs may be well matched but as we all know (or should know) it is the team and how it performs as a whole which will make the difference. Also how many game changers are there and how big is the game changer? City had more "better' players on paper but United had RVP and that made the difference. I just do not think you have a Bale and that is the key difference.
     
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  8. Tobes

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    Spurs have a better squad & a better manager <ok>
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Good input <applause>
     
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  10. JonnyBaws

    JonnyBaws Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't disagree with that right now, but that wasn't really the question ;)
     
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  11. nabzy2005

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    lets not forget we may get a few more in before the window closes
     
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  12. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    As Manc I have tried to give an honest opinion! Changed a couple because i think you may have been a little selective of the players you chose ;)
     
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  13. Not for me. Lloris is an established international and is better with the ball at his feet.

    However, I actually think Suarez is better than Bale too but didn't want to appear biased <ok>
     
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  14. JonnyBaws

    JonnyBaws Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, should have put Willian in brackets but it does appear he's on his way to them..
    Can't argue with your assessment though.
     
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  15. Enricky.

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    **** that, it's our board, we can biased if we want too. :)
     
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  16. Our board or their's, my opinion stays the same <ok>
     
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  17. Enricky.

    Enricky. Well-Known Member
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    I was kidding, but fair enough.
     
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  18. Breakingbad14

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    Wow. Has this got anything to do with his rehabilitation in the hearts of the fans? <whistle> A few weeks ago his name was mud. I think Bale is better than Suarez. Proof? Bale will walk into most top teams in the world. Suarez wouldn't .
     
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  19. I know you was but thought I'd respond anyway #lastwordaddiction



    Talksport are talking about Spurs and them possibly signing Willian and Lamela. One of then pointed out that they may not sell Bale and they both starting laughing. They response was "if they sign them and keep Bale, they can win the league" Only one response to that...


    FFS...<doh>
     
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  20. kph103

    kph103 Well-Known Member

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    I can't stand bias..here's my ratings

    Mignolet >Loris

    Johnson >Walker
    Agger > Dawson
    Toure > Vertonghen
    Enrique >Rose (poss. Coentrao)

    Lucas > Paulinho
    Gerrard >Dembele

    Aspas > Chadli
    Coutinho >Holtby (Lamela if they sign him)
    Suarez >Willian

    Sturridge >saldado


    So there it is.champions league qualification is ours.
     
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