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25 years since Enzo Ferrari died.

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  1. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    http://formula1.ferrari.com/it-happened-today/happened-today-14-august

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    It is 25 years since Ferrari founder Enzo Ferrari died. In a scene so far removed from reality that it had to be devine Italian intervention, his cars finished 1-2 at the Italian GP just one week later. This was the only time a non-McLaren won a race in 1988 and it required the help of Jean-Louis Schlesser to tip Senna's McLaren into a spin with 2 laps to go. Schlesser was deputising for an ill Nigel Mansell. If that were written as part of a film, it would be put down as pure fiction.

    In the early days, there is no doubt that Mr Ferrari brought on the success of his own team, however it is clear that the politics he brought to Maranello and the iron-fisted way he ran the team also played its part in ensuring that Ferrari's success was very sporadic.

    In the years after his death, the in-fighting got even worse and led to one of the most desperate periods in their history through the 1991 to 1993 seasons.

    If Mr Ferrari had taken a step back from running the team earlier, I don't think they would have suffered from the turmoil that they did and he was the catalyst for many of Ferrari's issues, some of which are still engrained within the team today.

    What are your memories of Ferrari in both the pre and post Enzo years?
     
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  2. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Good article, ASC. There is surely no doubt that this legendary figure warrants it. Well-timed too.

    Unfortunately that's about the most positive thing I can say, both of the man and his team. Suffice to say I didn't like what little I knew of how he went about 'business'; and I didn't want to know any more. Actually, that's enough. If I were more polite,
    I suppose I could pass it off as a matter of taste; but after several attempts to continue, I've decided not to salt pepper or spice an unpalatable meal. If I were more generous I'd say it was the starter. But it isn't. There is surely better food in Italy, although it's sometimes best not to ask how it was cooked. As you suggest, the legacy lingers. Some might say they can still smell it.

    Any more could sound like too much whine, so
    I hope I'll be excused from the table…
     
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    Not until you've eaten your greens, young man!
     
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  4. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    ** on hands and knees praying the cheese board does not make another appearance in this thread **
     
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  5. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
    I love tasty fresh greens, especially the famous one which goes by an Italian name: broccoli. Just not so keen on mould.
     
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    RoadRunner Well-Known Member

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    Please, I think we're cheddar than that.
     
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  7. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    This is where it all started last time. CHEESE ISN'T MOLD! :p
     
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  8. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    No! Please. Not another thread in the same vein. I camembert it any longer&#8230;
     
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  9. TomTom94

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    Whatever your thoughts on Ferrari, past or present, you have to respect the empire that Enzo Ferrari built, both in motorsport terms and in terms of road cars.

    However, that's not funny, so, um... I shall be brie-f.
     
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    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Thanks... I was in a meeting with 10 other folks when I glanced down at this, and then burst out laughing. :p
     
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    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Who has a problem with mold?
     
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  12. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Hi Tom. Apologies for not seeing your response sooner.

    My dislike of
    Bastardo del Grappa and his methodology was never, and still is not, a lack of acknowledgement to substantial achievement. The two concepts are separate as curds and whey. Whilst writing my earlier post, I stopped short of elaboration because I thought it analogous to crossing a goat with a ewe and I have no wish to throw a black shoat over a geep; far less to be disrespectful to a dead man's legacy, especially on his anniversary.

    &#8230;I just refuse to be palm(esan)ed-off with another vulgar red-head
    *.
    - - -o0o- - -

    *(1)Translate testa rossa ;)
    *(2)Further apologies for this sprinkling on his pasta. It was meant to be a joke, Enzo. Honest! (Hard cheese if you don't like it&#8230;)
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    He built a good team and cars, but afaia he was a total backstabbing, snidey 2 faced prick who had a habit of creating conflicts within his team by **** stirring
     
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