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Football's Suicide Secret

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Aug 13, 2013.

  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    On BBC 1 now, looks to be an eye-opener...
     
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    Loveitupthebush Well-Known Member

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    Clarke was class.
     
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    Watching this. Very interesting, and Carlisle is very good, articulate and honest.
     
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    Loveitupthebush Well-Known Member

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    He was voted the most intelligent footballer at one time.
     
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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    It gives you a different perspective of how the game can actually eat you up. All the jeers and catcalls hit home. It was particularly interesting to hear him talk about playing at Loftus Road where the crowd are on top of you and you can hear all the slating. That knee injury he got against Fulham was a sickener, ironically against Brevett...
     
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    Very good programme, and at times quite moving. Clarke may have retired from football, but he clearly has options for the future. Seemed like a good man.
     
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    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Although I feel deeply sad for Clark Carlisle, I can never forgive him for that really **** clearance at the Millennium Stadium against Cardiff. It still haunts me to this day.
     
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  8. Queenslander!!

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    That was on a game show he won....mutiple choice questions..

    id be suprised if he was smarter than Gareth Southgate TBH!

    Sems like a good bloke though and isnt he some sort of players or union rep now? Seems to be the front man in a lot of public debates.

    Stil think Southgate is smarter TBH
     
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    Beckham has to be one of the thickest. I remember when Brooklyn was born and he was asked whether he'd get him christened, to which Becks replied,"yes, but we don't know into what religion yet". Priceless.
     
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    Hmm, poor/little education and an estuary accent may not necessarily equal thick. But even if he is, hardly held him back, has it?

    Did you see this programme Queens? While there are no prizes for 'most intelligent footballer' I'd be very surprised if any of the usual talking heads could have made this programme with anything like as much openness and feeling as Carlisle. Obviously that springs from his own personal experience and courage as well as intelligence. I was seriously impressed with him as a person.
     
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    So has any player over here committed suicide? Or is it still a secret?
     
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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    It's a major credit to the PFA that it has a chairman that has been through some of the major career 'traumas' that many footballers go through in their careers and can relate and empathise with what they go through. I thought the interview with Leon McKenzie was very revealing as he mentioned he was fobbed off when suicidal and Carlisle was learning much more needed to be done to help them...
     
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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    There was the Rushden goalkeeper who killed himself, after John Terry's brother had an affair with his fiancee. Also Justin Fashanu...
     
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    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    You may have heard of Gary Speed. Oh, and Dave Clement. The is a list of 46 on wiki.
     
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    Our own Dave Clement as well I believe
     
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    I meant that was directly linked to on field and career problems such as injuries or abuse? All the players named on here seemed to relate to things in their personal life, not professional.......
     
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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    The programme told how what happens on the field can influence their mental health and lead to off the field problems. Major injury and retirement often excerbate the problem. Everyone is different and many things can trigger the depression. A very complex subject...
     
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    Didn't see the programme but it occurs to me that wherever there are huge rewards, there are huge pressures that can lead in extreme cases to suicide. This is as true in business/finance/banking as in football.
     
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    Stan: Hmm, poor/little education and an estuary accent may not necessarily equal thick. But even if he is, hardly held him back, has it?

    No, Stan, you don't have to be academically gifted to make a ****load of dosh. Did Becks have poor or little education? Actually, he went to the same school as my father, albeit some 35-40 years apart, so I dunno. I suppose there are many definitions of "thick" and would be interested in yours.
     
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    No different to anyone else's life or job then really! So not really sure why it needs a special programme all to itself, might have been better to have a mini series about depression in many different high profile careers...
     
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