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  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    <peacedove>At least we are doing some good work.
    Andy Carroll to West Ham at cut price £35,0000,000-£15,000,000=(20,000,000)
    Stewart Downing to Wet Ham also at a cut price £20,000,000-£5,000,000 (£15,000,000)
    If we are strictly a trading company you know what is going to happen.
    Can see Downing supplying crosses for Corroll to head it in either at Anfield or Upton Park because Big Sam
    knows how to make use of bad situations. That is really going to piss me off<doh>
    Who are we going to blame for sub-standard goods?, buyer or seller?.
    <whistle>:police:
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    LFC cannot defend crosses period. if these two score its cos of that not because they are any good.

    In this case the blame is square on Commolli, kenny AND ayre.

    Kenny says he chose these players. Comolli allowed it or picked them with him and frankly ayre should have baulked at both fees and put manners on his two underlings....

    You can add the 17mil loss on aquilani and the near what 5mil loos on adam to the list of players who should never have been bought at all.
     
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  3. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    I said this in another thread, Downing was obv meant to give the ammunition to the big guy but they never played together much and when they did Downing was often on the wrong wing (right) and therefore, not planting them to Carroll properly.

    Im glad theyve gone thought, they arent our future
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    It makes me sick thinking of the money we spent on average players, and how it set us back.
     
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  5. Breakingbad14

    Breakingbad14 Active Member

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    Dalglish surely had a key role in all of this debacle. Will people now admit that he set your club back significantly through these really disastrous buys?
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    He bought some average players, while Commoli over-paid for them.

    It's a shame because Kenny came in and transformed our team (the first 6 months). He didn't make many changes and used his resources extremely well.

    I'm not sure there was another manager who could have galvanised an entire club so quickly at a time where we were all divided thanks to the board and Roy Hodgson.
     
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  7. Breakingbad14

    Breakingbad14 Active Member

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    Are you not looking at this through red tinted glasses? Could any other decent manager not done the same thing through being successful?

    With the benefit of retrospection, the fact that Dalglish was such a respected and revered figure counted against the club. Directors and owners were in awe of him and did not query his buys or his actions ? You wanted the directors to question whether Carroll was worth £35million but it seems that they were too scared to upset him and just bought these players at any cost.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no,but he was rightly sacked.

    why?

    he;

    a) took over in 18th and led us up the table (anyone would have mind)

    b) won a cup and so got europe

    c) cos you are just a wum.

    d) we can actually afford the loss.
     
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  9. Breakingbad14

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    Honestly if you could afford the loss like the chavs or $ity, you would have had good replacements ages ago and you would not have been in the current predicament. These players and the loss of money they represented really set you back. You like United or Arsenal cannot afford to squander and write off millions like the Sheiks or the Russian.
     
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  10. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    You seem to think that people haven't already but then the set up of who's responsibility of saying "that's too much for that player" has never been revealed for that period. I've always assumed that was Camolli area.

    Was KD simply asking for players that should either have been bought more cheaply or like BR last year KD should have been told no pick another due to price. Did he have the final nod after price was stated?

    If all those players had been bought at reasonable prices then when they didn't work out they would have not been such a disaster.

    Also rightly or wrongly KD wasn't given the time so we will never know what his final vision of the team would have been or how successful it could have been or not as the case may be.

    So it's hard to judge. Doesn't matter anyway. They were both sacked so paid a price for something...
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I wish someone had cut downing into funny shaped pieces all right...
     
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  13. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    .......Then West Ham are not going to have him in pieces.<laugh>
     
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