And if I have missed something, please tell me: Was Suarez's contract clause common knowledge? If not, then how were Arsenal aware that £40,000,000 was the figure they had to bid over in order to trigger the clause? Is this not textbook, page 1 evidence of a player illegally holding talks with a club before he has been given permission to? I am aware that all players are 'tapped up' to one degree or another. But i always thought that the specific details of a footballer's contract remained, to a certain degree, confidential between player and club. For what it's worth, and this isnt a slight on Arsenal, I hope you keep Suarez and I hope Spurs keep Bale. I am fed up of players signing huge, big money contracts at clubs then almost immediately trying to force through exits. He knew (no disrespect intended) full well that you werent qualifying for the champions' league any time soon, he must have known this time last summer that he would want to be leaving in the very near future, so why the f*** did he sign a new contract with a pay rise? The sooner footballers are held to task over negotiating improved terms just to try and force a club to sell less that 12 months later, the better.
There's no legal way for Arsenal to have known about the clause. Even the press talk by the agent and Suarez was about £35m, so how Arsenal magically guessed that LFC decided to make the negotiation clause £40m in the contract is quite mysterious.
Problem is you have to 'prove' they had held illegal talks. It's so frustrating as in the technological world we live in footballers can literally do what they like behind the scenes. All it takes is Suarez's brother's/wife's/dog trainer's boss to ring up one of the postmen for the arsenal scouts and mention this contract clause and Bob's your uncle. Like I said - Suarez and Bale in particular knew damn well they were at clubs that couldnt match their ambition long term (no disrespect intended) when they signed new terms with pay rises. Rooney less so as he was already at a top level european club and new circumstances have created the environment where he wants to leave, so I can have a small amount of sympathy with that. But (and its never going to happen) I wish we got to a point where clubs united against footballers signing deals just for the extra few ten thousand pounds a week (!) safe in the knowledge that they can use the media to bully and browbeat their pay masters in allowing them to leave as little as a year later./ The sooner clubs start standing up to it, the sooner players will start thinking about more than the golden dollar when contract talks come round. If you arent sure you are at the right club, dont sign a new deal and cope with only earning 50 grand a week until you can make your move (Poor sods, how will they cope?)
Unless there is a condition in said contract that prohibits Suarez from divulging the contents, Luis himself could have gone to a media outlet and provided quotes of what that contract says. The only way the rules are broken are if the player (or his representatives) discuss the player's transfer/contractual conditions etc. Since most of the newspapers were reporting a £40m get out clause, Arsenal could argue that that is were they got it from. However, I'm sure we could find several quotes from Mr Wenger about not believing things in the media too (true or not, its all part of the game). The simple fact is, Arsenal and Mr Wenger have been very silly. Why bid £1 over and make it so bloody obvious? Of course, this could be answered by the reported fallout between Mr Wenger and the Arsenal board who are meant to have told Mr Wenger to make a bid above £40m for Suarez. We all know what a stubborn and arrogant character Mr Wenger can be.
This. This. This. Spot on. Why does Suarez think his interests are the only thing that matters? Why throw a hissyfit and a sulk when it's just common sense that we will not sell to Arsenal (our rivals for the coming season for 4th/5th). If the papers are correct in quoting Luis as saying he would leave this season if we didn't have CL then why, oh why did he agree a new longer term contract? Oh that's right, greed. An extra £10,000 in his back pocket without any extra commitment. That's not how contracts work in the real world Luis and I'm sick and tired of football as a sport and a business being dragged through the mud by these ****ing mercenaries. A contract should be binding unless both the player and the club want a move. Case closed, end of. The team shouldn't offer a contract if they don't wish the player to stay that long and a player shouldn't sign it unless he intends to see it out.
Getting a new longer contract is in the clubs interest too. Its a two way street and both parties would have been hoping for CL footy too.
Have to agree with you all, Suarez must have an army of agents and advisors, and they all knew as well as anyone that a verbal promise ain't worth diddly. Which is why he's moved to plan B, making as much noise in the media as possible. Sorry sunshine, you (on advice from your army) signed the contract so you've got to live with the consequences, if no one is matching the asking price. PS I don't think it's totally unreasonable that Arsenal would now about a release clause (real or imagined), there must be a certain amount of "sounding out" of players and clubs to see if they would listen to an offer. That's pretty much what agents are there for, after all.
Totally agree. I don't doubt for a minute Arsenal had info re the contents of his contract but that's just the way of the world these days. Eventually the cash obssessed players, dodgy owners and scummy agents will suck all the life out of the sport. There's something else I don't understand too about Suarez. Here's a lad complaining about being at a club with no CL. Well if I remember correctly Senor Suarez we were in a decent position to challenge before you got yourself a massive ban. Jan 2012 and we were only a couple of points off Chelsea in fourth. It was you who completely derailed that season and ultimately got a club legend the sack....because he stood by you....yet you think because you worked hard last season (before you bit someone) all the **** should be forgotten and we just bend over? No ****ing chance To coin a phrase "man up you total tart".
Take them to court for what exactly? The fact that they know of a clause that isn't actually a release clause has cost LFC **** all, you've no claim for damages as you've lost nothing, there's therefore no reason for a civil action. Boro threatened to take you lot to court over Christian Ziege's release clause years ago, but only because they'd had 2 bids that were £2.5m over what the release clause was, by clubs who hadn't been told of it's existence. So you lot triggering it cost them £2.5m, in this case there's been no financial loss.
Probably won't win anything as you say, but it's about making things as difficult as possible. Arsenal were cheeky in their way with offering £40m plus £1 so we should be equally as petty.
We weren't being cheeky, we were being cheap, yet brilliant at the same time. If the clause was said to be anything over 40 million, then why waste money by offering 41 million, when you can save £999,999 by just bidding £1 over the 40 million mark, yet still activating the clause. I still fail to see whta was cheeky, yet again, you all forget the £40 million and focus on the £1.
More to the point, if we should go to court for the Suarez clause, what about you and that Atletico player?
You basically did to him what we've done with Suarez. EDIT: Forgot, double standards because you have so much "history"
I agree with this. How did Arsenal know this fee might trigger something and in turn how did we know the same with Costa, although it looks like it was a rumour.
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Atletico deny we have made a bid. Even if we did bid, why hasn't it been accepted? Surely they have no choice if a release clause has been met. Keep up the bullsh*t.
Wanger saying "we like Suarez but you know I don't talk about players of other clubs". That was a quality one
