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OT - McDonalds = Poison crap as proved by Jamie Oliver

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  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Fair play to him I have to say, he has the bastards changing their recipe.

    http://politicalblindspot.org/hambu...cdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/

    I had mentioned on here before I am certain that I threw up every time I ate McDonalds, I can see why after reading this, I'd never put that **** near my kid's mouths. I don't care if they say they do not do this in the UK and Ireland. Ammonium hydroxide <yikes>

    Hamburger chef Jamie Oliver has won his long-fought battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world – McDonalds. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise finally announced that it will change its recipe, and yet there was barely a peep about this in the mainstream, corporate media.

    Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”

    Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”

    “Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.

    In one of his colorful demonstrations, Oliver demonstrates to children how nuggets are made. After selecting the best parts of the chicken, the remains (fat, skin and internal organs) are processed for these fried foods.

    In reply to all of the bad press this process has received from Oliver, the company Arcos Dorados, the franchise manager for McDonalds in Latin America, said such a procedure is not practiced in their region. The same, it should be noted, applies to the product in Ireland and the UK, where they use meat from local suppliers.

    In the United States, however, Burger King and Taco Bell had already abandoned the use of ammonia in their products. The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which has allowed McDonald’s to use otherwise “inedible meat.”

    Most disturbing of all is the horrifying fact that because ammonium hydroxide is considered part of the “component in a production procedure” by the USDA, consumers may not know when the chemical is in their food.

    On the official website of McDonald’s, the company claims that their meat is cheap because, while serving many people every day, they are able to buy from their suppliers at a lower price, and offer the best quality products. But if “pink slime” was really the “best quality” that McDonalds can muster in the US, then why were they able do better in Latin America and Europe? More to the point, why can they apparently do better now in the United States?

    These questions remains unanswered by the franchise which has denied that the decision to change the recipe is related to Jamie Oliver’s campaign. On the site, McDonald’s has admitted that they have abandoned the beef filler from its burger patties.
     
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  2. Drogs

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    you can leave a McDonalds to rot for years and it will take that long to show any sign of decomposing, disgusting stuff but I still eat the ****.
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    I've been a fan of Jamie Oliver since the first Naked Chef shows, I know it's trendy to mock him now that he's so famous but how many of these celebs do so much to give young people a chance and also find time to fight a global franchise like McDonalds?
     
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    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    Read the small print in the article. As suspected, this isn't done in the UK.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I have ALWAYS felt sick after eating that stuff ALWAYS. never go there.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    It's not done in the Uk, so what's Oliver's issue here?

    In fairness McDonalds clearly label their food with it's calorific content etc & when we eat it, we're doing so, in full possession of the facts i.e. that it's junk food ****.
     
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    ... I fancy a big mac now.
     
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  8. Sir_Red

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    He's big in the states now, all publicity for over there probs. All the fast food joints are pretty clean in the UK, including KFC. I think mechanical reclaiming still goes on for chicken nuggets, but I'm pretty sure the beef is from edible cuts and is 100% beef. We've much higher food standards here than elsewhere
     
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  9. Master Yoda

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    Oliver is holier than thou. Raise awareness? Fine. Try to force people into eating 'better'? Not fine.

    Some people want convenience and don't care about what's in the food. Let them have their McDonalds... in America, where this is actually relevant.

    Forgets he does that not everyone shares his passion for food.
     
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    People have a right to know what they're eating, and do you think there's a cat in hell's chance of McDonald's even telling people- let alone changing their recipes- without such a high profile campaign? If they're improving, it's not through the goodness of their hearts.

    The U.S. has serious problems with obesity and it's not just down to quantity, but quality also. No-one has to do what Oliver says, but there's no harm in at least educating them about the facts.
     
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    <applause> I agree.
     
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  12. Master Yoda

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    That's what I said - raising awareness is fine.

    Obesity isn't caused by the availability of fast food alone. It's caused by poor parenting, poor education, poor individual decisions, unavailability of exercise, modern 'digital' life. Fast food companies are delivering a service - it's not their prerogative to give you a balanced diet or a healthy lifestyle. They exist to sell themselves and sell very well.

    Fast food is fine if you view it as what it is - convenient, unhealthy, cheap, easy. A nice treat occasionally.

    People never complained about what was in McDonalds until they found out - guess people actually enjoy a mix of gristle and flavourings. Ignorance is bliss.

    My problem with Oliver is that he's too wrapped up in his own world to realise some people just don't care as much about their food. His media drive resulted in all the school vending machines in NI being replaced by 'healthy' drinks machines. Who suffered? The companies? No, they make the healthy options too. It was us - the vast majority of students who ate responsibly. And the obese? They stayed obese - because their problems began at home.
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    It clearly says it ain't done in the UK and Ireland, probably because law doesn't allow it but I've had their chicken nuggets and **** are they chunks of nice chicken. Processed mechanically separated meat and ground up organs, people are feeding that **** to their kids.

    If they actually put not just calorie info and told us what they are actually putting in, what parts of the chicken, I bet you wouldn't be eating it nor most other people. That's my particular issue with it.

    He's doing a serious amount of work, in the US and UK with regards to trying to get schools to stop feeding kids pure ****, in the UK he's been met with excuses like cost when asking them to change to a healthier menu, in the US it's ignorance and complete indifference.

    I don't feed my kids processed meat and I've stopped eating it since I was in my early 20s. I wash thoroughly every chicken fillet or piece of meat before I cook it too, not a good idea to throw it into the oven or pan straight out of the packet
     
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    Standards so high that horse was passed off as beef for years<whistle> Where was it that this was discovered first, the horse meat in beef? wasn't it Ireland?

    in general the standards are decent, but in saying that, I worked in a restaurant in my late teens, standards were always met by having a mad dash to get it all in order for the scheduled top to bottom inspection.
     
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    Is it weird that I now fancy a nice quarter pounder?
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>


    Nothing wrong with the good auld qtr pounder mate. I mince steak I buy when making them for us at home and make the burgers myself, or a trusted solid local butchers make fantastic burgers too with quality meat<ok>

    Fast food dumps just want to make a buck, not feed you well and sell most of their slop to pissheads
     
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    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    I agree, homemade burgers are much nicer but McDonalds is heavens gift for a hangover.
     
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    Big mac > quarter pounder
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    well you are lucky-ish, the meat although soaked in grease is at least meat, even if the fingernails of the guy who cooked it are black wit the dirt<laugh>

    I just do not like eating food cooked by anyone who hates their job that much, doesn't bode well at all.
     
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    Half Pounder > Big mac
     
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