Suarez Transfer News.

This just in....

Wenger said last night: "We always try to act properly but a transfer is always an agreement between three parties."

The thing is Wenger, it is initially an agreement with TWO parties, the fact that you thought you were aware of a trigger value, means you have been talking to the THIRD party, when you should not of had any contact at all. That is what Rodgers is questioning the lack of class over. How on earth would you know that a bid of £40M+1 would activate any clause? LFC knew it wouldn't, the only people under the illusion that it would, were the player and his thick agent, and for Arsenal to find out..... Has illegal approach written all over it.

 

Go back and read my reply to sisu on the last page - just because knowledge of a clause in a contract has got to Arsenal ears doesn't mean that anything illegal has happened. It's obvious that Suarez and his people have leaked the information and will have done it in a way that any clubs in the CL who might be interested would get wind of it. This is easy enough to do by leaking the information to media representatives who are known to have ties with a club, or a number of other ways im sure.

There is no proof whatsoever that they have done anything underhanded. I think it's naive approach to think anything illegal would have happened when its so easy to achieve there goals without doing so. It's just a way for Brenda to lash out at Arsenal because he is pissed off he may lose hisbest player. If anything Liverpool and there fans should be pissed off with Suarez

 

Many of your fellow supporters believe Arsenal don't understand the clause? Doesn't that undermine your point, if Arsenal have actually not understood the clause. They could have been testing the rumours of a buyout clause, but if they had prior knowledge he'd be an Arsenal player now?

 

Rodgers is one finicky and jittery fool. Complete panic merchant. I never had him down as an amateur. But man has he come across as one in this whole saga. Embarrassing stuff.

 

http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/223122-Brendan-dishes-it-out-(again)

faith restored

 

Suarez and his agent did not understand the clause. The fact that Arsenal made an attempt to activate the clause, is a bit of fingerprint evidence that Arsenal must have had prior communication with the misinformed party.

 

If you say so...

 

Agreed, that is why there would not be a complain to the FA, or charges pressed, but he can come out and call in in the media. It is probably all part of the game.

 

You need to research the tapping up rules. They essentially forbid a club negotiating with a player, or his agents without permission of the club that holds his contract. A player telling a club about a clause in their contract, or having an agent tell a club about a clause in their contract, that will allow them to negotiate, is not tapping up, or anything even close to it, in this day and age.

Wenger gets a phone call.

"Hello, I am Luis Suarez 's agent. I am hearing that you are interested in Higuain. My client is a similar player, and is interested in leaving Liverpool. He might be interested in joining Arsenal. I have to tell you though, I am not allowed to discuss my client with you further unless you agree a fee with the club or make an offer to the club of over 40M. Have a nice day."

That in no way constitutes tapping up and Arsenal would NEVER be charged with it by the league.

PS: Also, how receiving such a call and making a bid of 40M and 1, constitutes "A lack of class" is simply beyond me. Rodgers need to put on big boy pants and start realizing he is in a grown up world where name-calling is childish, particularly when he is dealing with people he should respect. He needs to learn how to behave, or he will have problems being a manager.

If there is a weakness or a flaw in the contract he certainly lost any goodwill Arsenal may have had towards Liverpool, chances are they will screw Liverpool as best they can now.

 

Paul Mariner from ESPN talking about Suarez.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/227775.html?genre=1;sport=3

 

It'll be great if we manage to do the deal at £40m, but i'd be happy if we get the deal done for slightly more as well. If they are letting him discuss terms with us that must mean that either a) the clause did require them to let him negotiate terms of a contract with us, or b) they are willing to let him go and think we will reach some sort of agreement. Either way its a step in the right direction.

 

Yup, things are definitely moving along now. With Suarez now allowed to negotiate, we can hopefully reach a quick settlement in this matter.

 

Mariner is absolutely clueless. I always shake my head at the silly points he makes.

There was a time a few weeks ago he kept persisting with that laughable rumour of Suarez-Higuain swap deal, even though there was no way on earth Higuain would want to play for a poor side like Liverpool without no Champions League. He's an idiot.

 

Was just about to post this. Would LOVE it if this was true, however I watch Press Pass frequently and he does not have inside info on Arsenal so I would love to know where he has got this story from. I wouldn't get my hopes up on it.

 

I am not sure myself either. He is an ex-player and a pundit though. It seems debatable as to where he got the knowledge, if it's true.

 

Fair enough.. one can hope still.

 

The only reason I would believe is because as pointed out already, he is a big Wenger skeptic and has been saying the whole Summer it won't happen. For him to suddenly change his tune is pretty strange. Still don't believe it, though.

 

I think the difference here is that Liverpool think they are a big club and they aren't, and that Arsenal are a big club but we don't think we are. Even so half the supporters know that as long as we are financially big and well run, we will win eventually.

It is the difference with long term and short term success. I think most Arsenal fans are happy with our strategy of getting bigger. They are not so happy with the tactics and think we could have won a bit more on the way, maybe taken a few more risks, not made as many mistakes

Liverpool have no long term strategy. So when they make a mistake or lose a player, there are no redeeming features. They are just screwed. They still think they are big, even though they are getting poorer, and aren't winning either.

Even with all Arsenal's issues, even the most pessimistic Arsenal fan looks at Liverpool and says, "Of course it could be worse, we could be Liverpool."

 

You forgetting that one carling cup that they won, that makes then the biggest club in the world, without parallel. In fact they are now bigger than the world itself. And have be branching out to new planets, because they are too big for earth.

 

You're right, and you're wrong. yes you are right in doubting Arsenal are a big club, and wrong in thinking Liverpool are not.

Arse are only bigger than pool with financials, and only because you now have the new stadium, and you charge massive ticket prices. In all other measurable aspects, Liverpool are by far the bigger club.