Suarez Transfer News.

What £50M+ bid? Maybe read my comment again, I said we need to bid £50M and you started crying about him going cheap.

 

We are not privy to such information. The negotations are ongoing between Arsenal and Liverpool. At the end of the day, we are not putting a gun against Suarez's head and he is free to say no to us. He himself has expressed a desire to leave and come to us. If he didn't then I doubt if Wenger would have bothered.

 

Another example of Brenda Rodgers "class".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18886354

Funny how these things are never mentioned eh?

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fulham-complains-about-liverpools-dempsey-pursuit

 

Hardly on topic, and you say I derail threads. Thank ****ing jaesus we didn't sign Dempsey, after all the wum from HIAG about stealing him he ended up turning on him half way through the season like the rest of the spuds. Classic Herbert turnabout antics

Still no transfer request btw

it's looking like Liverpool are being firm with Suarez and placing it in the hands of Wenger to make an offer we can't refuse, better hurry cos if bale falls through Real may swoop in

 

of course, I am just wondering where Wenger got the info, most likely from Guardiola, not directly but I think that's why Wenger acted on the misinterpreted contract details.

 

I think it's obvious that Suarez's people made sure the information was public knowledge incase CL clubs where interested in making a bid.

I don't think this constitutes Arsenal or Wenger doing anything wrong or being un-classy. He simply wont overspend so if information arrived with him that the bid had to be over 40m, its no suprise to me that we bid literally just over 40m.

There is literally no proof whatsoever of any wrong-doing from Arsenal, so i have no idea why Rodgers is acting like a kid and moaning.

 

You defend Wenger and say Rodgers is acting like a kid, mate, you lose creditability when you do that, Rodgers is not acting like a kid, you may disagree with what he says but he's managing a PL club, you are not, you have no idea what you would do in his situation, because you are not in his position, its easy to sit behind a keyboard and make judgements, too easy, I know that.

it was not public knowledge, it was rumoured, Wenger did not act on a rumour imo imo is just not used enough by many in this discussion but state their opinions as facts, Wenger is not in the game of acting on rumours and Suarez contract details were not published to the general public, absolutely not.

I am assuming Wenger acted on a source to make such a specific bid, if he was not informed then making such a +1 bid would look silly in the extreme, and as it turned out the details of suarez contract could not be public because the public perception of what it was was totally incorrect, funnily enough that incorrect interpretation matched exactly what Guardiola thought too, smoke and fire in this case.

Re managers, I have no probs admitting when managers make mistakes, Liverpool managers, but blindly defending Wenger when you have no clue if there was a source is tribalism and illogical, you don't actually know if he was informed by a source that was whispered to by Guardiola, none of us now anything for sure.

I am not talking down to you like you are an idiot, we are all guilty of tribalism when concerning our clubs

 

So me defendign Wenger is illogical, yet you defending Brenda is perfectly logical?

I don't think Wenger went based on what was printed in the newspapers and i don't think anyone is suggesting Wenger woke up one day and read the Sun and thought - "Thats it! We can sign Suarez". I think it's very obvious thatSuarez and his agent made sure if CL clubs where interested the required information would get to those clubs. I expect they did this by leaking the information to certain sources that have links within the club, maybe a journalist who they know we speak to and think is reliable,or similar. But it's clear that it's Suarez people who have made this information available and i highly doubt they have been stupid enough to give that information directly to Arsenal, as its far too easy to do it without breaking any rules.

Once again - there is literally not a single shred of proof that Wenger has done anything other than act amicably. His comments are very respectful towards Liverpool which is more than they deserve with some of the comments from ex-players etc... And he has if the transfer is possible he wants to do it in the right way. Your ignoring the obvious so you canstick with your first impression.

And as for Rodgers - he is acting like a kid. He is throwing his toys out of the pram. Complaining about Arsenal, claiming we aren't classy - making it a public discussion and trying to drag Arsenals name through the mud - disgraceful behaviour and shows he is out of his depth. He should just keep quiet about it and keep poolite about it. That way whether Suarez goes or not he can save face.

 

Look, you obviously have a penchant for handbags.

I said Brendan is in a situation you are not and you find it too easy to throw around silly childish comments, and you call Brendan childish, throwing toys out of the pram You are being extremely childish.
I said I think Wenger acted on information nor rumour - Wenger should act on information not rumour, a logical assumption, there are indicators to that fact he received info like a clause that did not exist, one that Guardiola thought existed, no one else in the world who were privy to the contract thought there was a clause like that except the agent and player.

There is not a shred of proof that Wenger did act properly, nor improperly but you are hell bent on believing one thing and not the other without any information at all, hence my reference to tribalism, lastly you are just too stupid to debate with, I clearly tried to make it clear I was not getting into a silly argument but given the assembly of your reply it's clear you do not have the patience? attention span? to have a discussion that includes more than a few sentences.

If you are insulted by observations that does not make them insults, just making that clear

 

So i'm being extremely childish by having a opinion on a situation when i'm not a premier league manager - so that makes this entire forum very, very childish - the lot of us should all grow up... /sigh. I'm sure you don't read through half of what you post.

There is proof that Wenger is acting properly - in the form of all of his comments which are highly respectable to Liverpool. It's clear that if Liverpool fans want to be pissed off with someone it should be Suarez and his agent who have very clearly made sure Arsenal where aware of this clause. If you think they where stupid enough to do this in a way that breaks the rules then i just think your a bit naive.

Also if your main leg to stand on in an argument is that the other person is childish you probably shouldn't litter your reply with "your just too stupid" "you don't have the attention span to debate" etc.. and just stick to the topic being discussed. Especially when the several likes of my post suggest i'm not the only person on this board to have those opinions and as such your calling a decent chunk of the Arsenal supporters to stupid to debate with. Which i'm sure will help your case in regards to whether you get banned or not

 

Let's get 1 thing straight here. Both Ian Ayre and Brendan Rodgers have publicly stated that there are no negotiations with Arsenal and the neither are we (Liverpool) seeking them. So Wenger can waffle all he like about continuing negotiations but they are only with himself.

 

Wenger had no idea about Cazorla and Podolski yetc within a week of both his statements both guys were signed.
Soo if no negotiations have taken place why is Rodgers so bent out of shape over Arsenal

 

Couldn't give a damn about Arsenal's previous purchases as they've nothing to do with this. Rodgers is saying that he does not welcome Arsenal's interest and that he takes the last offer as a sign that they (Arsenal) are playing games. You will not find any reference in what either he or Ayre have said about the possibility of any on-going negotiations whereas Wenger has insinuated that he is still negotiating. All I am doing is pointing out that Wenger can only be negotiating with himself as e's not talking to Liverpool and is barred from talking to Suarez or his agent.

 

Point is manager's lie or conceal the truth all of the time

 

Two examples of Rodgers saying one thing only for the opposite to happen.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ont-let-pepe-reina-leave-the-club-this-summer

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8011335?

Two examples of Rodgers wanting a player to stay who wants to leave.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/exclusive-liverpool-fc-boss-brendan-3339250

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk...t-may-be-set-argentina-return-99623-31384457/

 

Well boys you can think that Arsenal are still negotiating if you wish but it doesn't make it true.

The clocks ticking and you've got no Plan B

 

Piss off you filthy ****.

 

Heard Suarez skipped out on Gerrard's gala dinner. Probably because they didn't serve fava beans and a nice glass of chianti

 

Think he skipped it because he couldn't see the arm in it myself

 

This is a fun thread to read. You do have the usual slagging off and name calling, but there is a distinct lack of the usual gooner "know it all" arrogance.

Quite rightly too. After the "We've paid off the stadium" statement, everyone has been rubbing their hands waiting to see the influx of talent to take the arse to the next level, and it just hasn't happened.

I know 99% of the media is made up bollox, but IF the story is true that Suarez is going to wait until the arse are assured group stage Champion's League, and if the arse are going to wait for him.... I'd be very nervous, very nervous indeed. Please tell me you do have a plan B? Do you have a scouting network? Or do you just go after players we want/have?