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Pele - Over-rated, arrogant and total hypocrite

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Robert Heenan, Jun 2, 2011.

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  1. Somerset_Scouse

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    Glad you got that off your chest?? haha, Maradona > Pele for me as well. Althought it could soon be Messi>Maradona>Pele.
     
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  2. Sam Axe

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    Who is Messi
     
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    You may also notice a link between Pele playing for brazil and it being their golden era and then him retiring and Brazil going 24 years without a World Cup win.

    So Stretty, how much of a fail was your post? Big I would say.
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    Not a fail at all. He played in a garbage league and even heskey could have been top scorer in that team
    Its sort of like me saying Messi plays against 2 bob players week in week out.
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    He doesnt at all, unless you consider utd two bob? Because I have seen bottom half la liga teams defend better against barca than we did. Still harping on with the myth La liga is weak. Oh dear.



    Its true mind as compared to him they are pretty much 2 bob players. Pele of course did it on the world stage aswell which sort of debunks the myth he only did it against 2 bob players and Messi does it against the big European teams.
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    Yeah I somewhat believe peles brazil teams were somewhat better than messi argentina teams tbh.
     
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    I believe this may be Messy:

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    See what I did there?
     
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  5. Sam Axe

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    Good one dude
     
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  6. TheStrettyEnd

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    Pele never proved himself in the premiership. He has no grit. Iknow zidane didnt either but he headbutted someone so has enough grit.
     
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  7. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    La Liga is a joke league Stretty. you are one of the very last people to realise this. Even the spanish football fans know it hence why they all celebrate Barcelona and Real victories above their own teams.

    BTW, the brazilian league at the time was one of the top leagues in the world.

    The last bit was to show that week in week out messi plays against rubbish players compared to him but to prove he is the real deal he does it on the biggest stage ( the champions league ) just as Pele did it for Brazil. Both are very very similar if you think about it.

    had Messi scored like he does now in La liga a decade ago then I would be very very impressed but as it is its not much better than when Henrick Larrson scored loads for Celtic in the SPL.
     
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  8. Sam Axe

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    La Liga is just a better version of the SPL. Have you seen the gap between 2nd and 3rd place? The EPL is the best, most exciting and competitive league in the world.
     
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  9. TheStrettyEnd

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    La Liga is a joke league Stretty. you are one of the very last people to realise this. Even the spanish football fans know it hence why they all celebrate Barcelona and Real victories above their own teams.

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    seriously give up watching football. Its not a joke league by any stretch. You clearly dont watch so why comment?

    I thought after the other day idiots like you woould have learned humility and just accept this barca team is very special hence why thye own their league and europe but your still trotting out the same garbage.

    And I will think you will find messi has been the top scorer in the cl for 3 years running. Mediocre league aswell? Of course it is.
     
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  10. TheStrettyEnd

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    La Liga is just a better version of the SPL. Have you seen the gap between 2nd and 3rd place? The EPL is the best, most exciting and competitive league in the world.
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    Competitve maybe. I suppose if that makes it exciting for you then fair play.
     
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    Competition is exciting. The possibility of upsets in almost every game makes it unpredictable. I love that.
     
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    LOL Stretty. Its a joke league. Its nothing to do with Barcelona ( you probably dont know that Barcelona are amongst the biggest spenders in football and also have the biggest wage bill ) being that good. Its all down to the fact the league is set up so Barcelona and Real stay way up on top and the rest just wither away and die.

    I dont watch the league for the same reasons I dont watch the SPL. Its a joke and like watching professionals against amateurs.

    Yes Barcelona do it in Europe......AC Milan didnt do it in italy yet did it in europe. Liverpool couldnt win a league title to save their lives yet won in europe. Notice how you point about europe means **** all now?

    If you think the La Liga standards are high you know **** all about football. I only know of 1 other person who doesnt think La Liga is grossly unfair and that person is Nohlman.

    The 1990s PL was more competitive than La Liga and we dominated that.

    Why dont you just support Barcelona stretty? Seriously, it would be for the best.
     
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  13. TheStrettyEnd

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    Could just say that the standards of the top teams are a lot lower.
     
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  14. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Ah yes because knowing the result as soon as the fixtures are announced is the most exciting way to go.

    Its why so many people hold the SPL as the most exciting league in the world. You know exactly whats going to happen before the season kicks off. Pure excitement.
     
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    Why can't Utd fans accept we are not the best team in the world? We have never been that great compared to the Milan and Ajax and Real and Bayern sides and now this Barca side. All this LA Liga is rubbish blar blar is just rubbish, that league still is the best in my opinion. Just because the top 2 teams are the best in the world does not mean the league is not that strong. If Barca and Real came into the EPL they would leave everyone behind as well.
     
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    I could just say bollocks.

    Check the champions league for the past decade and notice how English teams dominated it on the whole. We were everywhere so as a league we are much much stronger than any other in world football.

    Strongest league, most competitive, most watched. la Liga doesnt even come close
     
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  17. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Shut the **** up nohlman. You chat more bollocks than stretty. You 2 are the only ones who think La Liga is a good league and neither of you know anything about football.

    End of.
     
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  18. SirPaulRyan

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    Pele without doubt one of the most over-rated players of all time....A good player amongst all the shepherds and carpenters he played with.I mean in Brazil they dont even think he was the greatest.Go to Brazil and they say that Garrinacha was a far better player and as you said Pele just took all the glory from the great talents around him.

    Maradona,Zidane,Cruyff Van Basten fat Ron were far better then him.
     
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    Whats barcas spending got to do with anything. Its hardly on citys level. But also irrelevant.

    Also if you hdid watch the spanish league it may have helped you not embarass yourself. You do realise teams reguarly make a bteers reguarly make a better effort against barca than we did? We were absoulutley outclassed are we an amatuer side?

    And its nothing to do with supporting barcelona, its about knowing football, you clearly have no clue what your talking about so I am setting you straight. I also enjoy good football, so yes this barca team is nice to watch, just have many teams have been in ages gone by.
     
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  20. Valencia25

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    I am sorry but are you trying to say a team with Ronaldo, Ozil, Di Maria, Benz, Higuian, Alonso would not finish higher than Utd? Or Barca with Messi, Xavi and Inesta?
     
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