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  1. Mitch_wfc

    Mitch_wfc Member

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    <laugh>

    Nah. And it was £1.1m for Britt and around £300k for Hogg so more like £1.4m, which will prob go on either wages or paying off debt.
     
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  2. Mitch_wfc

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    You for real??? A 34 year old Iwelumo who could only manage 5 goals in 11/12 when he was 33, you reckon our fans would have been ' happy ' for a league 1 standard donkey like him to be our main striker this season coming!!??? Hell No!! Even without the Pozzo takeover I wouldn't want Iwelumo here even as a 4th choice striker.

    There is a reason why Hodson, Dickinson, McGinn and Britt have all joined League 1 clubs not Championship clubs.

    Thankfully this club is far more ambitious than being happy/accepting mid-table every season with boring dull football.
     
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  3. HaslemereKev

    HaslemereKev Well-Known Member

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    Was rather tongue in cheek... <whistle>

    How do you know it was £1.1m? Their previous record was £1.1m (£1.4m with add-ons) and their own has said they 'smashed' it. Also seen £1.55m quoted, but no idea if that is true.
     
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  4. oldnickhornet

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    Well thanks for taking the trouble to say that Chris.
    All I'm really about is having a long term interest in the future of the club, and the future of the club should be the likes of Britt A. If they have potential they sometimes need time to develop, but quick success is the order of the day now, and I suggest thats spread to supporters of this club judging by some I read on here.
    So to be impressed by a few 'nice' names,some formerly unknown who may or may not suit the division = Good, Positive fan.To take a rather longer term look at things, to wonder if the owners will ever commit with investment = King of Negativity. Investment...some should invest in a thing called a dictionary !
    LOL...there you are,a bit more one of the crowd ?
     
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  5. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    But surely 'the future of the club' has always meant more than what is happening on the playing field? My memory of the club takes me back as far as the names Pat Jennings, Dennis Bond, Tony Currie, Billy Jennings - all sold to secure 'the future of the club' as that is how many, if not most, clubs operated - they nurtured potential and sold it on. Fast forward to the present day & we are still in that mode of business - only now there are two major differences.

    1) There is far more 'potential' coming through than there ever was for the club to decide whether to keep or sell - and at the moment they appear to be doing both, given that we still have Smith, Murray and Hoban....

    2) Previously, when potential stars were sold to the highest bidder, they were replaced, to a man, by signing players of lesser ability. All I can see coming in these days are players of a far higher standard than we the fans could ever have hoped for - and all for little or no outlay as a bonus.

    From my perspective, the Pozzos are taking care not only of the financial viability of the club, but also the prospect of greater success on the field. As those two generally go hand-in-hand, I really can't see any room for complaints about what they are doing.
     
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  6. theghost

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    Some strange reactions on this here. We've just sold someone who none of us can have seen play that often (except a dedicated fan watching non first team games) for over a million! For someone with his experience that just has to be good business especially when we have got Uche for free who you never know may even be a better prospect. I think it's odd to suggest that this shows a lack of investment or a shortage of funds on the part of the Pozzos. They are quite clearly trying to get us promoted, that's what I want too and I don't see that as being short sighted.
     
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  7. aberdeenhornet

    aberdeenhornet Well-Known Member

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    ONH are you for real or just trying to stir it? I've not read such a load of tosh since the old days of 606. THe comings and goings are exactly in line with the Pozzo model, its good for them and good for the club. As to investing yes they have we don't see it now but there are debts being paid, wages being paid, losses being adsorbed as we transition to self sufficiency and profitability playing attractive football. We will need to be selling a fair few more from the Wastford books regularly, it will not stop, we will sell we will acquire we will develop better players and we will work this cycle whilst they are at the helm. Alternatively we could find some dodgy bankrupt to make do for a season or two and do a pompey. Stop moaning!
     
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  8. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    Thou shall not cause me loss of my positivity.
     
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  9. emiatss

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    On the Britt deal, I think Watford have come out slightly the better. Paying near to £1.5 million for a player who hasnt proved himself above League 2 level I think is a good deal for us. I think the Pozzo's would have been far less willing to sell if we didnt have two up-and-coming strikers in the form of Ikpeazu and Bernard Mensah. Big risk from Peterborough to sign an unknown talent at league 1 level for that amount of money, but good luck to them and Britt.

    Looking at the those we have let go it really does flaw the argument that we are giving less English players opportunities at 2nd tier level because we are flooding our squad with foreigners. All apart from Eustace, Forsyth and Hogg (I believe?) those that we have released dropped a division. Our squad was simply nowhere near good enough two years ago, being filled with journeyman which somehow Dyche pulled together to have a good season (mainly thanks to Mariappa and Deeney).
     
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  10. Bolton's Boots

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    ...or pozzotivity even...
     
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  11. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode Well-Known Member

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    Yes I'm certainly for real. I wonder if you are most of the time. There is no need for the arrogant, offensive tone you employ.

    The reason that this club is "far more ambitious" now is solely due to the change of ownership. You might have deluded yourself into thinking that our visits to the Premiership would regularly continue however brief the stay. But the reality was that without a huge injection of capital and playing resources, Watford FC would have continued a downhill spiral and even accepting mid-table every season with boring dull football would have been a bonus.

    There would also have been a very good reason why we would have kept "Hodson, Dickinson, McGinn and Britt" - for the simple reason we could not have afforded better.

    No Mitch, I think you live in cloud cuckoo land if you think that without the Pozzos we "fans" would have been as ambitious as we all seem to be now.

    Perhaps I did stretch a point with Iwelumo, but after remembering stop-gap solutions like Quinn, Beadle and the like a few years ago, even Iwelumo, played regularly, is a cut above these.
     
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  13. Markthehorn

    Markthehorn Well-Known Member

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    Its why other fans don't like our policy - we've gone for a standard mid-table side to promotion contenders through the Pozzo way.

    Would be the same if we had a millionaire bank rolling the club...
     
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  14. Mitch_wfc

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    Couldn't care less what other narrow minded clubs fans think about our situation TBH. Club size has feck all to do with what happens on a football pitch or ambition (biggest clubs in the world exempt of course). A fair few clubs in the Championship are posting annual losses of between £8m and £12m!!! But thats okay apparently!???

    This way is not as risky as a millionaire spending tons of money though Mark, less money is involved in our situation.
     
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  15. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you completely Mitch.......
     
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  16. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    I remember some of the same reaction when we sold Marvin - selling off our best players, future stars etc. Anyone care to find out how well he has been doing?
     
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  17. Bolton's Boots

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    Another backwards step for him it would seem, given his loan to Charlton. ;)
     
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  18. Chris 13

    Chris 13 Well-Known Member

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    Slightly different though in the fact that Sordell was leaving to a 'bigger' club and most felt it was a season too early as he had only recently broken through whilst Britt is going to a lower division team having had a cracking pre-season by all accounts and I think some people believed he would be good cover/replacement for Deeney in a couple of years.

    I'm not saying it's not good money because it is; also Britt playing regularly will help his developement no end. With Marvin it appears to have been proved right that it was too early but he'll come good.
     
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  19. Bolton's Boots

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    Accrington Stanley &#8207;@ASFCofficial 1h
    More transfer news - Piero Mingoia has signed a one year Stanley contract
     
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  20. Markthehorn

    Markthehorn Well-Known Member

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    I fully agree but then fans want their clubs to show ambition and spend big...again it depends if it their club doing or not.

    It proves football can be very bias and tribal.
     
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