Not606 2013 Hungarian GP Chat & Predictions

[Han Shot First]

All I can say to the response to Hamilton winning is that it's disgusting... The sooner F1 goes back to being a minority supported sport, the better. Both the racing and the fan-base was better.

And who broadened the fanbase? Why, Hamilton of course. It's partly his idiot fans which cause me to seethe when he wins. Not so much people like you Sarge, you're a regular on here and you know your stuff, so i have no real issues with you supporting him, but clowns such as Garth Gayder's personal rentboy etc.

 

[TomTom94]

sorry, again you're just desperately trying to make it seem like there's nothing remotely different or negative about Hamiltons compared to other drivers, when he's spent the last couple of years whining like a little bitch because "Vettels had the fastest car", unfortunately people do kind of occasionally read about and listen to him constantly moaning, and his attitude is obviously far more arrogant and childish than any other driver out there. He seems to think he's far more entitled to the fastest car than any other driver. *waits for people to say everything about him is irrelevant*

So what you're saying is you dislike him for complaining about things beyond his control, to the extent that you believe him to be 100% undeserving of his win?

For the record, I genuinely don't think there's anything different, with the possible exception of media coverage, between Hamilton's complaints about Red Bull and Alonso's over the last couple of seasons. Which implies to me that, surprise surprise, Hamilton is too popular to be a good F1 driver.

 

[TomTom94]

And who broadened the fanbase? Why, Hamilton of course. It's partly his idiot fans which cause me to seethe when he wins. Not so much people like you Sarge, you're a regular on here and you know your stuff, so i have no real issues with you supporting him, but clowns such as Garth Gayder's personal rentboy etc.

You know what? I don't recall a single person on here gloating about Hamilton winning until "the haters" started complaining about that fact before the race had even finished.

Also homophobia, stay classy mate.

Wonder where the real problem lies in the F1 fanbase?

 

[Han Shot First]

You know what? I don't recall a single person on here gloating about Hamilton winning until "the haters" started complaining about that fact before the race had even finished.

Also homophobia, stay classy mate.

Wonder where the real problem lies in the F1 fanbase?

No homophobia, just a personal grudge, it's different.

 

[TomTom94]

No homophobia, just a personal grudge, it's different.

A personal grudge that meant you decided to use homosexual terms in a clearly insulting manner. That's homophobia.

 

[SgtBhaji]

All I can say to the response to Hamilton winning is that it's disgusting... The sooner F1 goes back to being a minority supported sport, the better. Both the racing and the fan-base was better.

And who broadened the fanbase? Why, Hamilton of course. It's partly his idiot fans which cause me to seethe when he wins. Not so much people like you Sarge, you're a regular on here and you know your stuff, so i have no real issues with you supporting him, but clowns such as Garth Gayder's personal rentboy etc.

The fanbase was broadened by the commercialization of the sport by Bernie, who then pocketed all the coffers.

I get you don't like Hamilton, Kyle and most of the time your dislike of him has me laughing. What I don't like are fools waltzing in and calling me a blind fan... I'm sure you can back me up when I say I'm not. That drives me mad.

 

[Han Shot First]

The fanbase was broadened by the commercialization of the sport by Bernie, who then pocketed all the coffers.

I get you don't like Hamilton, Kyle and most of the time your dislike of him has me laughing. What I don't like are fools waltzing in and calling me a blind fan... I'm sure you can back me up when I say I'm not. That drives me mad.

Well, yeah, i just did

 

[Han Shot First]

A personal grudge that meant you decided to use homosexual terms in a clearly insulting manner. That's homophobia.

It's only homophobia if the receiver of the insult is homosexual, and as Garth is a mindless robot, i doubt he as any sexual preferences.

 

[TomTom94]

For the record, I don't believe that F1 should be a minority sport but I despise more the anti-whatever's-popular backlash (today, the wheel has stopped on Hamilton) that seems to be the norm at the moment among quote unquote "true" F1 fans. We were all new to the sport once. I used to support Zsolt Baumgartner because he had a cool name. Surely the most important thing is that we all enjoy the racing?

 

[Han Shot First]

For the record, I don't believe that F1 should be a minority sport but I despise more the anti-whatever's-popular backlash (today, the wheel has stopped on Hamilton) that seems to be the norm at the moment among quote unquote "true" F1 fans. We were all new to the sport once. I used to support Zsolt Baumgartner because he had a cool name. Surely the most important thing is that we all enjoy the racing?

That's one of the problems though. In amongst all these testing FIAsco's and pay-drivers and stupid venues, the racing is suffering.

 

[TomTom94]

It's only homophobia if the receiver of the insult is homosexual, and as Garth is a mindless robot, i doubt he as any sexual preferences.

If you don't see the issue with resorting to homosexual terms as insults and the implications that carries then I don't think there's much I can do to help you. Just remember that it isn't just Darth who'll read that post, it's quite possible that a load of guests will see it. Does that make them want to sign up?

 

[SgtBhaji]

Well, yeah, i just did

 

[TomTom94]

That's one of the problems though. In amongst all these testing FIAsco's and pay-drivers and stupid venues, the racing is suffering.

That's a much more general issue that I won't dispute. Time will tell how the new Concorde Agreement will work.

The point is what does it matter if someone enjoyed today's race because they wanted Hamilton to win or because they've watched the sport for years?

 

[51LV3R8RR04]

Because they are racing drivers... of course they do? What do you expect? A game of Sunday Cricket. It's all about winning... this isn't either new or exciting.

And WTH does Jacques have to do with anything?

That's what I'm saying Lewis "moaning" about wanting to have the best car and trying to influence the rules in their favour is nothing new, they're all like that.

Recent news is that Mercedes are demanding wider tyres for 2014, the rest of the grid don't want that.

 

[SgtBhaji]

For the record, I don't believe that F1 should be a minority sport but I despise more the anti-whatever's-popular backlash (today, the wheel has stopped on Hamilton)

I'm not trying to say it should be either really... but when it was, it was more fun. There wasn't this level of hate. I wish it would go away.. I don't see it in other disciplines.

 

[51LV3R8RR04]

For the record, I don't believe that F1 should be a minority sport but I despise more the anti-whatever's-popular backlash (today, the wheel has stopped on Hamilton) that seems to be the norm at the moment among quote unquote "true" F1 fans. We were all new to the sport once. I used to support Zsolt Baumgartner because he had a cool name. Surely the most important thing is that we all enjoy the racing?

Was the same with Schumacher and Germany tbh, maybe those guys could teach us something about which direction this is going.

 

[TomTom94]

I'm not trying to say it should be either really... but when it was, it was more fun. There wasn't this level of hate. I wish it would go away.. I don't see it in other disciplines.

As I say though, I wouldn't want F1 to drive away any potential new fans. I think the problem lies more in the members of the existing fanbase who refuse to accept new members on account of them "not being true fans" - because, as I said above, I didn't notice a single one of these annoying Lewis fans gloating before people decided to pre-empt them, and I'd imagine that's because they didn't want to have to put up with the vitriol directed at them and Hamilton. And this forum is quiet enough without even more people being put off signing up. <tongue>

 

[SgtBhaji]

Because they are racing drivers... of course they do? What do you expect? A game of Sunday Cricket. It's all about winning... this isn't either new or exciting.

And WTH does Jacques have to do with anything?

That's what I'm saying Lewis "moaning" about wanting to have the best car and trying to influence the rules in their favour is nothing new, they're all like that.

Name me a top driver that hasn't moaned when crap goes wrong and I'll show my bare arse. (Not that anybody wants to see that). Schumacher, Clark and Senna all had their moments... as does Vettel? Who wouldn't? I would.

 

[51LV3R8RR04]

Name me a top driver that hasn't moaned when crap goes wrong and I'll show my bare arse. (Not that anybody wants to see that). Schumacher, Clark and Senna all had their moments... as does Vettel? Who wouldn't? I would.

I agree with you, Seb moaning about changing the Pirelli tyres wasn't entirely based on "safety" was it. I know they're all the same and I would too do the same. Also you must excuse me, it's like 1:15am over here so my head isn't 100% at the moment but I entirely agree with you.

 

[SgtBhaji]

I'm not trying to say it should be either really... but when it was, it was more fun. There wasn't this level of hate. I wish it would go away.. I don't see it in other disciplines.

As I say though, I wouldn't want F1 to drive away any potential new fans. I think the problem lies more in the existing fanbase who refuse to accept new members on account of them "not being true fans" - because, as I said above, I didn't notice a single one of these annoying Lewis fans gloating before people decided to pre-empt them, and I'd imagine that's because they didn't want to have to put up with the vitriol directed at them and Hamilton. And this forum is quiet enough without even more people being put off signing up. <tongue>

Oh I hear ya.. as a Hamilton fan I had to be very reserved in my celebration. And that's sad and down to those people who chose to make it like this.