Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)

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When will Suarez leave?

  • Pre-contract, gone 1st day

  • Gone in July

  • Gone in August

  • Gone on transfer deadline day

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Dubbed The New Wenger said:
I don't even know why I bother responding to quotes such as these. Your whole team bar Suarez ranges from poor to average. That's one line you cannot use, I'm afraid.

Do you just post without engaging your brain?
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At least I have one! Your efforts on this board prove that your ability to comprehend is minimal. Let's take the players that you highlighted. Ramsey is not good enough to get into Everton's side! Moyes shed no tears when Arteta joined you - and he hasn't improved. How many full games has Wilshere played in the last 2 seasons?

So go away and grow up.
 
again there is no way arsenal's gorund is totally paid for... it is not built that long... that is NOT me saying its not an easy payment for them but lets not assume stuff without looking at thier accounts.

oh and they have cut wages to some extent... FFS guys lfc have over 60mil working capital on the last accounts so given arsenal didn't spend and didn't LOSE on most transfers so them having 130mil on hand aint that much.

but now red.. .we don't know whats going on with arsneal and suarez talking we only know lfc say he's not for sale... but he is for 50mil... but he's not and you'd better bid quick.... we do not know the next step as there is now a slight vacuum for the press to speculaate in until we hear from suarez camp.
 
Red_Pheonix said:
I see no tangible signs of this corporate decision. What major players have they bought so far. They bid for one player - only to get knocked - back. They bid for Suarez only to be publicly told that playing silly games would get then nowhere - since when no further offers! Their bank balances may be in a different place but their player mindset is still stuck where it was. They are risk averse in a risk environment!!
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It's only July ffs. Gazidis has openly said they were going to spend big this summer, in order to put themselves in a position to compete with the best. You can judge whether those words were hollow or not on the 2nd Sept. As for being risk averse, I think Wenger is naturally cautious in the market, but that's not such a bad thing is it?
 
Dubbed The New Wenger said:
Really? Ex players and management alike coming out with smug and laughable statements such as "I don't know why he wants to join Arsenal we're bigger" or "I don't what they're smoking over there" is ok then?
Reeks of bitterness and unprofessionalism.
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Grow Up. Showing the world that you know about a figure mentioned in a confidential clause in a contract reeks far more of being both unprofessional and possible illegal.
 
Red_Pheonix said:
At least I have one! Your efforts on this board prove that your ability to comprehend is minimal. Let's take the players that you highlighted. Ramsey is not good enough to get into Everton's side! Moyes shed no tears when Arteta joined you - and he hasn't improved. How many full games has Wilshere played in the last 2 seasons?

So go away and grow up.
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ahaha You're quite clearly very daft.

How can one talk about "average" players when their team is littered with them? Arteta is light year ahead of anyone you have in midfield bar Lucas. Same with Ramsey.
 
Red_Pheonix said:
Grow Up. Showing the world that you know about a figure mentioned in a confidential clause in a contract reeks far more of being both unprofessional and possible illegal.
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What? Is this idiot serious? Arsenal bid for the player. They never came out with any statements. You really are a blinkered and delusional fool.
 
Tobes said:
It's only July ffs. Gazidis has openly said they were going to spend big this summer, in order to put themselves in a position to compete with the best. You can judge whether those words were hollow or not on the 2nd Sept. As for being risk averse, I think Wenger is naturally cautious in the market, but that's not such a bad thing is it?
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You can change your PR agency but it takes a lot longer to change the habits of your executives.
 
Guys, Arsenal mission accomplished


"We need to show ambition and the offer for Suarez has done that," said Giroud.

Hook line sinker, fans/players are happy that they're are at least trying (although RVP and many before him have seen through this)

directors ever so happy that their spread sheets keep improving. Season ticket holders remortgaging their houses while their directors are buying the latest yachts. But footballs more than just trophies right
 
The DR says said:
Guys, Arsenal mission accomplished


"We need to show ambition and the offer for Suarez has done that," said Giroud.

Hook line sinker, fans/players are happy that they're are at least trying (although RVP and many before him have seen through this)

directors ever so happy that their spread sheets keep improving. Season ticket holders remortgaging their houses while their directors are buying the latest yachts. But footballs more than just trophies right
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Not trying to convince yourself here more than anyone, I presume. <laugh>
No stress. No matter what Arsenal are trying to accomplish, one thing is for certain you'll finish comfortably behind them as per usual.

It is amusing that you claimed you "like" Arsenal before though. Pretty obvious you don't with bitter comments such as that. <ok>
 
Dubbed The New Wenger said:
Really? Ex players and management alike coming out with smug and laughable statements such as "I don't know why he wants to join Arsenal we're bigger" or "I don't what they're smoking over there" is ok then?
Reeks of bitterness and unprofessionalism.
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It's simple statements mate:

Management are responding to your bid. If i publicly bid a pound for Wiltshire would the Arsenal response be a long and detailed statement listing the reasons why they aren't accepting? Of course not: It was an expression of how disrespectful they believed the bid to be, you may disagree but you don't hold the contract.

Nothing smug about the opinions that they believe that Arsenal don't offer enough of what Suarez reportedly wants to be attractive to him.

Suraez to Aresnal: It's like saying dont stay at Flamingo land and come to Alton Towers when the guy has expressed a clear deisire to visit Disneyland.

It's really not that difficult to comprehend. You may be sensitive to reality but it doesn't make it untrue. You have plenty of money apparently but no track record in the last 8 years of doing anything with it. You may get lucky (or unlucky depending on how it turns out) Suarez may think Arsenal is super smashing great because of their 4th place ribbon every year and want to join you but 9and I'm not sure how many different ways LFC can say this:

Just pay us 50M. Then you don't have to listen to us do you?

As a LFC fan:I don't want him to join you simply on the principle of not selling to those you want to overtake in the league. Surely you with Aresnals experiences can accept that?

Being Objective based on his stated desires I would question why he would go to you because on his own he won't get what he wants.

Looking from your point of view I think it's mad. I simply think he's too big a risk for the money even you are proposing being spent.

No bitterness involved at all.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
again there is no way arsenal's gorund is totally paid for... it is not built that long... that is NOT me saying its not an easy payment for them but lets not assume stuff without looking at thier accounts.

oh and they have cut wages to some extent... FFS guys lfc have over 60mil working capital on the last accounts so given arsenal didn't spend and didn't LOSE on most transfers so them having 130mil on hand aint that much.

but now red.. .we don't know whats going on with arsneal and suarez talking we only know lfc say he's not for sale... but he is for 50mil... but he's not and you'd better bid quick.... we do not know the next step as there is now a slight vacuum for the press to speculaate in until we hear from suarez camp.
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The short term cash flow issue that Arsenal suffered after the Emirates development was aleviated by the sale of the Highbury flats. The long term debt that funded the build is being paid back at around £20m per year, and it's obvious from their annual profits that this debt is not causing them an issue.

LFC DO NOT have £60m cash reserves, that's utter ****e. They have a funding agreemnt in place that allows them to borrow in excess of that, but it's not akin to Arsenal's £123m CASH RESERVES. i.e.. earned & accrued cash at hand.
 
...and to the people who believe Suarez doesn't owe Liverpool anything, how about a full ****ing season?

Then again, even if he did stay it wouldn't be a full season as the dumb **** is already serving a ban.
 
Tobes said:
The short term cash flow issue that Arsenal suffered after the Emirates development was aleviated by the sale of the Highbury flats. The long term debt that funded the build is being paid back at around £20m per year, and it's obvious from their annual profits that this debt is not causing them an issue.

LFC DO NOT have £60m cash reserves, that's utter ****e. They have a funding agreemnt in place that allows them to borrow in excess of that, but it's no akin to Arsenal's £123m CASH RESERVES. i.e.. earned & accrued cash at hand.
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Tobes In effect they're both the same as whoever you buy from doesn't give a tinkers cuss if the money came from reserves or a funding agreement!

As for their repayment schedule - it's still paying off a debt and will continue to be so long after the refurbishment of Anfield has been paid for.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
The fact that Arsenal bid £40,000,001 means they know about a 'confidential clause in a contract' <doh> - that was their 'statement'
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Yes you're right it was. LFC know all about this issue as they were fined for exactly the same offence i.e. knowing about a players confidential contract clause, when they bid for Ziege.
 
Red_Pheonix said:
Tobes In effect they're both the same as whoever you buy from doesn't give a tinkers cuss if the money came from reserves or a funding agreement!

As for their repayment schedule - it's still paying off a debt and will continue to be so long after the refurbishment of Anfield has been paid for.
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Don't talk out your arse man, there's a world of difference between having cash at hand i.e. profit you've made & are keeping for a rainy day & borrowings that have to be repaid with interest.

Who's paying forthe new Anfield btw, the tooth fairies? ffs you don't half talk some bollocks you Dave.
 
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