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Will this season see the demise of the Northern Clubs?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by St. Luigi Scrosoppi, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    I don't know, they're title contenders on paper but somehow I just can't see Mourinho doing better than Benitez. I think this whole Messiah complex the Chelsea fans have about him is absurd.

    The whole league seems to be in flux at the moment with all the managerial changes and so on but it still seems inevitable that those will be the top four in some order!
     
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  2. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I'm quite looking forward to seeing how much he annoys Moyes though.
     
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  3. Joe!

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    That's the economic north/south divide.
     
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  4. ChrisMarsdenFootballGenius

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    Should you not then include the South West, at least west of Bristol, in "The North"?
     
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  5. dantroke

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    To be fair, if we look at a map showing all the Prem teams at the moment...

    7 in the North (Liverpool, Everton, Man U, Man City, Hull, Sunderland, Newcastle)
    6 in London (Chelsea, Fulham, Spurs, Arsenal, Palace, West Ham)
    3 West Midlands (Villa, West Brom, Stoke)
    1 East Anglia (Norwich)
    1 South (Southampton)
    2 Wales (Cardiff & Swansea)

    Interesting to see that 10& of teams in the English Premiership are not English, and if you look at the map it is interesting to see where the big gaps are... Nothing really between London and Hull going up the A1 / M1 corridor. The real strength of prem teams is London and has been for a long time. Yorkshire has been well under represented for a long time, The Sheffield teams and Leeds really notable by their absence, East Midlands have been missing for a heck of a long time (Forest, Leicester and Derby spring to mind).

    I don't think there is a decline in the north as much as some rejigging of the strong teams in the area. for all the Boltons and Blackburns disappearing, the likes of Boro and Leeds will surely battle back at some point. If there is a decline I would say it is us bucking the trend as we strengthen whilst the other southern teams (Reading and Pompey) are on the slide.
     
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  6. pass the football

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  7. Joe!

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    West of Bristol? As in Devon and Cornwall? Why?

    I think it's based on house prices, and perhaps a few other factors.
     
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  8. Joe!

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    Here we go: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7061201.stm

     
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  9. dantroke

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    Growing up south of the M27 I thought the North started at Winchester for a long time...
     
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  10. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    OK, it won't happen, but it's an interesting point. The balance of the whole division has perceptibly shifted just a bit, despite the location of the teams who came first and second last season.
     
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  11. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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  12. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Hull is in Yorkshire.
     
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  13. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Never had any idea where Hull is...couldn't have put a pin in a board within 200 miles of it;)
     
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  14. CambSaint

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    Isn't that part of Yorkshire now called Humberside?
     
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  15. jenthesaint1990

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    he is the cancer <laugh>
     
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  16. dantroke

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    Under represented not totally absent...
     
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  17. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Well the population of England and Wales is about 57m, and the population of Yorkshire (and the Humber) is about 5m, so on that basis they should have between 1 and 2 teams in the premier league. So, underrepresented perhaps, but not by much.

    Greater Manchester's population of about 3m makes it probably the most overrepresented area (historically at least)!
     
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  18. Joe!

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    With Leeds in the EPL, I think that'd be just about the right amount of representation for Yorkshire. I do hope they come up soon, as it's nice to have a team you love to hate.
     
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  19. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Apart from Hampshire.
     
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  20. fran-MLs little camera

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    Should really only count the population of England as Cardiff and Swansea are only in the English leagues because they are honorary English.
     
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