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The word on Vydra is......

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Bolton's Boots, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    Might need to remember that Vydra was injured for a lot of the back end of the season and was still carrying an injury up to Wembley - I would have a fully fit Mr Otter back any day.
     
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  2. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    I might be wrong. I am sure I saw a person named as Matej Vydra's agent who was not Ondrej Chovanec. It was in an italian blog about Udinese Calcio and the person was an italian. Has anyone else seen this?

    Also I noticed most of the stories about where Matej is going are in the Dail Mail and nowhere else. What is that newspapers agenda for Watford as everything looks to upset the balance.
     
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  3. Hornet-Fez

    Hornet-Fez Well-Known Member

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    Lot's of history AK. It all goes back to their chief sports writer Jeff Powell who was a good friend of the late Bobby Moore. You may not realise but Bobby Moore was favoured by the board as our 'next' manager only to vetoed by Elton who appointed a third tier journeyman left back over the former England 1966 World Cup Winning Captain... a certain Mr Graham Taylor.

    The rest, as they say, is history especially when we put the established order's nose out of joint and finished runners up in the league .... extending that rag's infantile bias against all things Watford and Graham Taylor as well especially when it all went tit's up for him with England - he substituted Lineker FFS (mind you he was playing crap at the time, as were many of the others - says a lot about England when the most consistent player was Carlton Palmer). They don't like us one jot. Never have, never will.
     
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  4. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

    hornethologist a.k.a. theo Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only one who takes great comfort from the Daily Mail hating us? I think of everything the Daily Mail stands for...and I know my football team stands at the opposite end of the spectrum.
     
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    It's incredible really Theo - I hate everything the rag stands for but think it's important to glance at it now and again as it does tap into the thoughts of Middle England. Why in the world would you choose to take up a campaign against a quintessentially home counties club FFS? As you say though - I love it!
     
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  6. oldfrenchhorn

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    You have it the wrong way round Fez. Elton thought that a 'big name' in Bobby Moore would be the right man as manager. He actually offered him the job, then was talked out of it by the other directors. As he had got that far with BM he actually paid him compensation from his own pocket.

    I think that the Mail and Watford problem is to do with the bad relationship that existed with Duxberry when he was at West Ham and that has followed him. Not every journalist is bad on the paper, but some are total rubbish. The press is struggling to exist in the modern technology world and to spin non-stories seems to me to be the last throw of the dice sometimes.
     
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  7. Hornet-Fez

    Hornet-Fez Well-Known Member

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    It may well be the wrong way round OFH but Jeff Powell was a friend of Bobby Moore, Moore did not get the job as promised and Powell used (or is that abused?) his position accordingly. The result was the same. We used to get the DM deliberately because, as my Dad would say, 'what is the point of only reading stuff you're going to agree with'? In the end they distanced themselves from the hateful vitriol dished out by the scum and others, but not by much - they did it in much more subtle manner. A nasty rag, I barely believe the date on it. "Hurrah for the Blackshirts", anyone?
     
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  8. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

    hornethologist a.k.a. theo Well-Known Member

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    On first reading, Dan, I nodded in agreement with your point about 'Middle England' but on reflection I wonder how much that's actually the case. Having lived in both urban and small rural communities I've listened to a lot of folk spouting DM misrepresentations and prejudices, but I've also often been surprised by others, from all backgrounds, who have a more balanced view of the way the world is. I'm inclined to think that the DM's take on things is more the outlook of its owners than the views Middle England in general. It may be of course that I'm being a little optimistic about my fellow citizens :)
     
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  9. Jsybarry

    Jsybarry Well-Known Member

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    Funny you should say that about the owners, theo. My previous employers administered funds created by the chairman of the DMGT for his family and they were our most complex client, although there was a large amount of fee income from them.
     
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    You're not being over optimistic Theo - it was a bit iof an easy generalisation and I do know people in rural communities who wouldn't use the rag to muck out the horses!
     
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  11. Jsybarry

    Jsybarry Well-Known Member

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    If you go on to the club website where the player profiles are (new ones not been added as shirt numbers yet to be announced) Vydra is still there.
     
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  12. geitungur akureyrar

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    Salvatore Trunfio player agent and owner of Mediastar http://www.mediastarinternational.it/Home.aspx said Matĕj Vydra is returning to Watford.

    Ondrej Chovanec player agent and owner of Chovanec Sport Agency says many things. Mr Chovanec looks after many footballers in Czech Republic and Daniel Pudil and Matĕj Vydra

    One information I found on this web page http://www.chovanecsport.cz/cs-hraci-utocnici says Matĕj Vydra is a Watford player, not Udinese Calcio!


    What is really happening?
     
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  13. Mitch_wfc

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    Hopefully we are being used as a smokescreen so he can go join a club that will pay him £30k a week and give his agent a big bonus.

    Deeney
    Acuna
    Fabbrini
    Forestieri

    We dont need him. And if he really/genuinely wanted to be a WFC player he would have joined up with the squad in Italy and already be signed up by now.
     
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  14. HaslemereKev

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    Gone beyond caring, if I'm honest. If he comes back, hopefully if he can reform his partnership with Deeney. If not, I feel we have good enough players as it is. He's a quality player but yet to prove to be a consistent one

    I do wish the Wobby would stop reporting every time his agent talks about a new club though....
     
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  15. Cornish Mark

    Cornish Mark Well-Known Member

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    Squad numbers announced and no Vydra.
    http://www.watfordfc.com/news/article/130725-201314-squad-numbers-943936.aspx

    The more time goes on the less I want him back. If he comes back will he ( or his agent ) want a transfer in January. This could be an unsettling atmosphere in the dressing room at a time when, hopefully, we will need everyone pulling together. I am very close to not wanting him back. At the moment I am not bothered whether he comes or goes.
     
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  16. Bolton's Boots

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    Every player has his price Mark - and 'leaving in January' could apply to quite a few on that squad list, not just Vydra. Remember, we're a shop window now!

    I am now doubting that he will be back - for one thing, there are only 6 spots left to fill there, and if one is taken by the Algerian CB, that leaves 5 for 5 possible loan player slots. Whether those slots would all be filled is debatable - who wants/needs a squad of 33 players of the apparent calibre we have now?
     
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  17. Mitch_wfc

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    19: Marco Faraoni
    21: Ikechi Anya
    22: Almen Abdi

    :angry:

    At least 2 of these will be regular starters so why give them these numbers??? And I take it Reece Brown will be a regular in the XI then as he's been given number 2?
     
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  18. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure that squad numbers mean what they use to mean Mitch - merely for identification purposes these days.
     
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  19. Mitch_wfc

    Mitch_wfc Member

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    I know, just cant understand why clubs don't give relevant squad numbers, why did they stop doing it in the first place?? Was so much better when your number 10 meant centre forward, 9 meant support striker, 11 winger etc

    This is what it should be:

    1: Almunia
    2: Faraoni
    3: Pudil (or Romero)
    4: Angella
    5: Ekstrand
    6: Iriney
    7: McGugan (or Battochio)
    8: Abdi
    9: Forestieri
    10: Deeney
    11: Anya
     
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  20. A1 Horn

    A1 Horn Well-Known Member

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    I like the look of your team Mitch!
     
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