That's the only info I have, which was taken from FSF website. There was a link to the Home Office figures but the link didn't work when I tried it. All I can say is that non of the arrests were for alcohol related offences
I'm get confused with dates, but the last three arrests I'm aware of from football never resulted in convictions as they were nonsense arrests.
I wasn't claiming to know the figures, if that was an over estimate then fine, let's say there we're 10-15 last season, my point still stands. I was saying that not every City arrest has a full page in the HDM as someone claimed, the disparity in the press is a national trend and not a HDM conspiracy as some may believe, but that as I have previously pointed out is a direct result of the behavior of a small minority some 20-35 years ago.
You are talking crap again. There were 14 arrests, 7 home, 7 away for the last full season where figures are available at City matches. There were 5 arrest at the last derby game at the KC with a bottle thrown at a player and flares going off for some reason no one seems to have appeared in court unlike for football where they spend thousands of man hours studying videos and tracking down football fans and also getting banning orders on fans when they haven't even bing arrested or taken to court. As for the front page, there were front page reports on a City fan who hd breached a banning order and another who was arrested and banned for shouting "We're not gay enough for you" at Brighton fans, something even they laughed at. Humberside police described that as "a significant result". Yet a KR fan pictured in the papers booting an FC fan on the floor was given a fixed penalty fine and no one was jailed or banned. Don't try and pretend that events at football and rugby are treated the same by our local media. I notice there isn't a comment facility on the article, unlike when they report football incidents.
Few of the acts of crowd disorder at RL result in arrests due to the lack of Police and difference in Policing policy. That's not the same as RL being safer or suffering less disorder. Anechdotal evidence points strongly to there being far, far more trouble at RL than at football. A similar level of evidence from fans of other RL clubs points to Hull FC having a specific problem.
Whilst the incident you refer to was shameful and disgusting it's a different entity to a sub-culture of violence associated with the sport, hence why I said nothing else was comparable. I wasn't painting rugby out to be innocent because it certainly isn't, but a single event is not the same as a nationwide culture based on violence at sports games.
It was available earlier because there was a link to one of the offenders being mentioned in another (non-sport related) incident.
Rugby League's not a nationwide game, so it'll never have a nationwide sub-culture. It does have a sub-culture within it's own field though.
I'd argue it does. There's a significant occurance of disorder at RL and an insignificant amount at football, both of which you agree with, but readers of the HDM or listeners to Radio Humberside wouldn't recognise that difference.
I agree there's a comparable level of disorder at both rugby and football, I certainly wouldn't say either is significantly worse. I can't speak for the entire audience of the HDM or Radio Humberside and neither can you, I also don't believe that they are the only media outlets in the city, so to suggest how people perceive disorder at sports games based on their coverage is rather short sighted.
I didnt claim that, unless you can show me otherwise and I'll gladly accept it. I said if this story was about City fans it wouldve been full page.
I wasn't trying to speak for either group, I was pointing out the fact that incidents at football get far more coverage than incidents at rugby. People relying solely on the reports from the local media wouldn't know that. I'd also argue that the disorder isn't comparable, I'd say it's worse at the rugby.
Dutch is on the money here Airlie. With a name like Airlie Tiger I guess you follow City and effcee. Your probably teasing here, because you surely cannot have missed the fact that the sub culture that was there in football has shifted across to RL now. and not saying it's gone away from football altogether. But sneeze at football now and its a banning order, kick the **** out of someone at RL and its almost excused.
The 'sub-culture' you refer to at rugby games is pissed up individuals with no respect for themselves or others causing trouble, not the organized violence that was the cancer of football for decades. I'm not making any excuses, I hate the fact there's disorder at both sports (and there is disorder at both sports), it's cowardly and shameful. I was never trying to make this a football v rugby thing, merely pointing out the disproportionate media coverage football disorder receives has it's roots in the hooligan culture of the 70's and 80's and despite football cleaning it's act up significantly, unfortunately **** sticks. I was trying to give the debate some balance, doesn't mean I'm defending rugby or slating football, but the slightest mention of rugby on here and it's like a bull to a red rag sometimes.
Why even try having a discussion with an egg chaser? They live in a fantasy land and never listen to the facts.
That single line shows you either haven't read or don't understand a single thing I've said. I explained why there is disproportionate coverage, I haven't once suggested the two where treated equally.
