very simple answer here. nowt. say nothing, brush of the question about the two guys and just let the press speculate as they did anyway. there is a difference between that and having articles form mingolet and rodgers all over the clubs own website talking up competition. that takes effort and spin. saying nothing and just leaving it lie will eman short term there will be rumours which the hacks will do anyway but in a week it dies down and the next story comes along. Saying nothing is not misleading, its hold your cards. saying something is bluffing..... its like watching WSP a guy will sometimes be found out tlaking too much. peoepl think you don't want to be called on something if you are talking like you are wanting a call... but they its not poker its just dealing with the press. which is why i think rodgers put two hands on pepes back and gave him a good push out the door with his wages stuff... again his choice... he's bought the player I've no issue there and results will speak. He'll look bad if the loan fails though... in the end its not like wenger or ferguson never made errors. in ferguson's case it is all about result and peopl ignoring stuff due to good results and for wenger he got away with stuff up to 2004 but since his result have gone down the critics are hammering him.... who hammered ferguson over CL group phase exit and 1st knock out round exit this yeay... nobody... forgiven due to title.
Pidgeon post/telekinesis/ or hidden messages in fan songs? Im just a bit pissed that Pepe is leaving. Then again Mignolet hasnt conceded yet, if he can keep that up for six years Im happy.
“Last year I had to make decisions in pre-season for the financial stability of the club and that's something I've obviously had to do this year as well. “Financially, it is something we needed to look at." This ^^ makes me think that as soon as the big bid comes in for our pesky Uruguayan he'll be gone. Massive transfer fee plus offloaded wages will be of benefit to our books. Whoever we get as a replacement probably won't be demanding the same kind of money as Suarez also.
I'm sure BR will come across in good light if he just refused to answer questions, worked well for Rafa afterall I agree he could say things differently but he can't say nothing without looking like a tool! Yeah, I know, I'm the same but my way of not getting worked up about things is to just take the piss out of it
I understand why people don't like the cost cutting stuff and I totally agree that if that is the case it shouldn't be said in public (although the annual accounts will show it anyway). However, at the same time I can't help but wonder why people moan about us cutting the costs? Sure, we would all like the best players at the club but surely people remember us almost going to the wall only three short years ago? I'd much rather the club be run properly than not at all!
At the end of the day, BR can't win. No matter what he says, people will pick up on the smallest of things and still criticise him.
Exactly G, I think it's because with established teams at the top of the European leagues it never looks like they're cheapskates, or not committed to winning, when one or two big players are offloaded since their squads are already brimming with talent. With us we only have two or three of those so it's more obvious when we let them go. Then with the Citys and PSGs of this world, the more newly successful teams with rich investors, it seems like all they do is spend, but their model makes them totally reliant on the continued backing of a wealthy overlord and means there's a sword of Damocles made from melted down agents' cash and crude oil perpetually in the background. Would rather we built something with longevity and sustainable.
I really just think that cutting costs as a plan doesn't marry with spending 9mil, a players wages and then trying to loan the incumbent out after the fact. I can see why lining up mingolet is fine and frankly a phone call to barca before you agree it would have solved your issue. Its not only cutting costs its rodgers believing this is a better way to go, that's fair enough but i think selling it first as two players to compete then finally admitting you were bullcrapping to us makes it impossible to believe a word out of hi mouth. also... if you want to think i'm about going out of my way to find things to criticise rodgers fine but i'll tell you right now i am not and leave it at that. Its every time we try to get someplace ****e occurs. I find this reina stuff total BS and am not going to not say it.
Dortmund are supposedly one of the best teams in Europe at the moment, they've just sold two of their key players (Gotze and Lewondaski (sp)) and not so long ago sold Sahin when he was one of their main players, no one is saying they are a selling club. The Reina / Migs thing is very strange and is someone the odd one out here. It doesn't make any sense in the cost cutting aspect unless Napoli are going to pay 100% of his wages as well as a loan fee AND we have a buyer lined up (Barca?) for next summer. that is a lot of 'ifs'
Yet we cut wages drastically last summer and it cost us in terms of league results (until we had to then spend again in Jan). We keep hearing how well the club are increasing sponsorship/revenue and we all know the new domestic tv deal is massive and the global rights will go up too. We've shifted Mandy and Carras wages already as well.
I'd totally agree. Team ethic, togetherness and spirit cannot be bought. honestly and reputation can't be either so I find it hard to believe things that are said as the evidence seems to point the other way so When say oh i dunno Mkhitaryan looks does he think... no cl i'll spoof these guys to get dortmun in or does he think.. yeah they could be big but i just don't believe them. who knows. YOu are dead right baout the spending model as we've seen players frankly move to a corner of the planet they just don't want to be at for massive money and it must be massive wages and all they want is to get out of there the day they arrive. We need more luis suarez type characters (without mental issues) who just want to play and will work. players like gerrard are priceless, guys like Reina... like dudek to some extent, like KUYT. If you build a team that'll work and die for each other its worth more than any 200million slpash of cash. We've now got who... lucas, gerrard... maybe agger with that attitude? I can't yet tell if coutinho has it or will pull a suarez if we are not in the CL who can? I know johnson and the like are not as good in that regard. the thing is rodgers keeps saying he wants winners and I badly want to believe he'll buy the type of player i'm on about here that will make that difference but at least half of me right now is thinking he's all bluster and it s cheaper guys who are whatever that is his real motivation.
that is a point. look at southampton and the players they are buying in.... are they on a bad model or have they simply not got the past debts hamstringing them?
They also made comments about reviewing all contracts (existing and new) to a lower basic wage with bonuses to achieve a potential higher wage. Maybe the cost cutting in wages is going to continue until all players are on what is deemed an acceptable level?
Fair enough - my comment wasn't an attack on you directly. The point is that Rodgers could have said anything but he still would have been criticised.
Completely, he states that he wants solid competition in each position, Reina/Ming situation was presented as though they'd be fighting for to be first choice unless Barca moved for Pepe. To loan him out to another club undermines our purported ambitions.
Finances are still a big thing. The current details haven't been released, but the last 2 financial years had FSG picking up a 50mill tab of debt. Whether they put money into transfers is another issue entirely, but they are investing in the club to keep us going. The new sponsorship deals and TV package just reduce what they have to pay into the club to keep it running. We'll be almost sustainable in a year or two.
But the least he could do is be consistent from one week to the next. He wanted competition for places last week (always going to mean paying good players the going rate) this week he's evolving us by further weakening the squad?? Well which is it? Competition for places or slashing wages again?
