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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by PINKIE, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. theevilreddevil

    theevilreddevil Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure Liverpool fans used to say the same thing about Everton, now look.
     
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  2. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Thing is they've been harping on about it for 18 ****ing years. And yet despite one of our worst seasons and Bale's best season ever we still beat them. We corrected our mistakes late on in the season and were nigh untouchable. We carry that form into the new season, cut out the defensive mistakes (which BFG + Kos did) get a 1 or 2 signings and we're challenging for he title.
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    If and when the Spuds ever finish above us, I'll start worrying. As it stands we've had 18 years of hot air, bluster and guff about 'this is our year' and endless crap from their less intelligent fans about the fabled 'North London Power Shift' TM

    Spuds have become a parody of themselves with their whole little man syndrome when it comes to their bigger and better neighbours <ok>
     
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  4. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    And if we continue with this attitude, we'll look like prats when they do eventually finish above us, which going by the summer so far, could be this year.
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Turn the Sisters of Mercy off Kyle <ok>
     
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  6. Krome

    Krome Well-Known Member

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    They havn't really been close to us for most of that time. Might not happen this season but it's coming
     
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  7. Arsegun

    Arsegun Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, you either see a danger when it's on your doorstep, or you pick up the pieces when they **** up your house. I prefer the former to the latter.
     
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  8. PowerSpurs

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    You had a much better team than us until 2010 and a better manager so it was hardly surprising you finished out of sight above us. Since then the teams have been well matched on paper but you still had a better manager and a more winning mentality and you've just stayed in front. It will be very close this season but there is no guarantee that we will finish above you especially if the excellent run you went on at the end of last season is a sign of your real potential. But there has been a power shift - from Arsenal out of sight better to about even. You must have noticed - you used to win tropheis and now the only thing you can crow about is that you are better than us!
     
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  9. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Utd upping there offer for Fabregas to £30million.

    If any offer is accepted they have to accept an offer of around £25mil from us as well. IF he is available and we don't go for him and let him go to Utd then i will be more pissed off than with any other Arsenal transfer activity of the last few years. I don't care how full we are in his position, SIGN HIM UP!
     
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  10. Krome

    Krome Well-Known Member

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    I'd be surprised if the club didn't at least try. I think Fabregas would probably chose utd over us though
     
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  11. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Shift means to go from one side to another. I.e from Arsenal being the bigger force to Spurs being the bigger force. That hasn't happened.

    On the pitch I think it's roughly even as you say. As of today, I believe Spurs have a (slightly) stronger XI than Arsenal, but if you look beyond the First XI, IMO, Arsenal are far stronger in the sense they can bring off the likes of Oxlaide Chamberlain, Rosicky, Diaby, etc but you'd expect that given their wage bill is larger than yours.

    Off the pitch, Arsenal are far bigger though, that isn't something that can be reversed anytime soon. Having consistently been amongst the top 3/4 teams in England over the last 15/16 years they have been able to grab the window of opportunity the Premier League offered them to expand their fanbase like United did before them and Chelsea soon after.

    No power shift for me, perhaps a power loss though if that's what you're trying to get at.
     
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  12. Han Shot First

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    So we get 15 million then.
     
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  13. Krome

    Krome Well-Known Member

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    No, I think we would get £500k
     
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  14. Han Shot First

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    Why? I thought we got half?
     
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  15. Krome

    Krome Well-Known Member

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    No one knows for sure but I think it's far more likely to be 50% of any profit they make over they £29m they paid for him
     
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  16. Batmoanu

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    I reckon we get 50% of anything over the £25M buy back clause we have.
     
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  17. afcftw

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    I think Batman is right - i recon it may be 50% of anything over £25mil - but none of us know!

    Either way we DO know we have a first refusal clause so we bloody better activate it if an offer is accepted from Utd!
     
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  18. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    I see semantics are the order of the day. The point was we are a lot closer to Arsenal than we have been in many years. Arguing about the meaning of shift is all well and good, but the fact remains. On the pitch is the only place I care about, by the way. <ok>
     
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  19. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    On the pitch we where better than you last season, every season before that for the last 20 years and you'll be worse on the pitch this season as well ;)
     
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  20. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Semantics has nothing to do with it, it's basic knowledge of the English Language, I feel PowerSpurs used the wrong terminology although I could see what he was getting at.
     
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