can't see a bidding war. i think he's gone for first team ball with napoli in WC year. don't think he's bothered fight for one year before going to barca..... barca might not want him.. Can't see more than 5mil fee now. I really want to know how much napoli are paying AND is it 100% wages paid too.
Too high wages to sit on the bench. Good luck to Pepe... a loyal servant he was. May the force be with him, always.
But competition for keeping slots is different. Name me some clubs that have 2 genuinely class keepers? None in the Premiership that I can think of? If we use that £4mil saving in wages and put it towards Ericksen will people mind too much?
Of course, I agree with that but then Rodgers shouldn't of said what he did. But, I do realize that it is difficult for Rodgers in this situation. Best of luck to Pepe, Mignolet is the future I guess.
Oh come on, guys. It was obvious when we bought Mignolet we weren't going to keep both happy this coming season, especially with the WC coming up. I'm disappointed to see him go because I really like Pepe but it's no big surprise- the writing's been on the wall for a while.
biscan, that depends. who do you rate? utd have two pretty good keepers even if we don't think de gea's improvement yet makes him top class cheslea had cudicini for years who i rated highly.. chech just made people forget spurs have lloris who i rate as top drawer... and brad friedel in reserve.... arsenal don't count cos wneger is an ass about this slot but they have two crap keepers fighting. city HAD given who would not stay but they had two for a year. message? small clubs have one keeper... big teams in our own division have two keepers fighting. We have minger who played ok at sunderland but thats it... jones is simply a flogger. rodgers said something about 2 players, gave us a clear example then pulls the rug out from under it... either he completely misjudged pepe and was lying. either way he goes down in my estimation.
I expected reina to go to barca maybe even next year which allowed us to look organised, prepared and would be covered well and allow minger to settle in. this is a loan to an italian side which just says to me that what rodgers said about reina being fine with competition as being bollocks.
De Gea is improving however if he left could you see United staying with Lindergard as number 1? No that's cos he's not good enough. Chelsea had 2... But they had money and could afford it... Now they have a 49 year old as back up. Same with Spurs. Yes they may be good back ups for a year, but neither and in the class if Reina. My point is, not many, if any, have 2 keepers that could genuinely be classed as number 1 keeper. As the one not playing will think they should be and there will want to move.
MITO, Mignolet didn't just play "ok" at Sunderland, he was the best keeper in the league last season, and the north-east player of the year. We couldn't of replaced Reina with much better if I'm honest, he is the reason Sunderland are still in the Premier league. As for Rodgers, there isn't much he can really do in his situation, you can't come out and say we've bought Mignolet because Reina is bailing out, for all we know Rodgers did intend for them to fight for a spot, but Reina has thrown his toys out of the pram. I do agree that Jones isn't good enough back-up, but to be fair to him, he's been reliable when we have called upon him. As I said in a post before, I'm a bit peeved at Rodgers but on reflection it's hard to tell what has actually gone on. Like Saint said, we expected this when the Mignolet rumours cropped up. I don't think any of us expected Reina to be loaned out, mind.
It may well be bollocks but what do we expect him to say? Look, managers and players come and go but fans are there for life. For this reason we think of the club ( quite rightly) as ours. But there's no point in expecting the management to explain their thought processes in detail before the event because it just ain't going to happen- they'll tell us what they want us to know. Or what they think we want to hear. Imo, and it's only my opinion, we bought Mignolet because they knew Pepe was off, one way or another.
Part of it is allows Reina to choose his option. Gave us the best years of his career when he could have left.
This is exactly what we need, an older player who has done it all Mark Schwarzer would have been perfect.
ok, but he wasn't. If we judge strikers on goals, then we judge keepers on clean sheets. Hart was by far the best keeper in the league last season and Pepe 2nd. But thats not the only problem, Reina is Liverpool. No different to Gerrard and Carragher imo. Big character and a big loss.
Mignolet's arrival was always going to be the end of Reina's career here - either this season or next. That much is clear. I really rate Migs as a keeper, I think he'll keep improving each season and turn out to be a bargain signing. Rodgers fed us bollocks, but that was probably (hopefully) more to keep Reina's value up more than anything else. Not that other clubs would believe it, but well, that's the media circus for you. Feed them ****. I expected Reina to leave following Mig, but this is absurd. We should not be loaning out players of that quality especially to a club with so much money burning in their pockets. The only way this move could be useful is if we've got a loan fee for Pepe, they're paying his full wages and we've 'agreed' a set price transfer with Barca for next season. Unless that's the case, we've just bent over and asked Barca to **** us. They'd know we've got a keeper who isn't first pick, who wants to leave and is a year down on his contract so they'll just offer peanuts and we can't afford to have him on our bench. I'd like to have faith in our management that they've done it the first way, but I don't.
Too simple. Sunder's defence was far worse than City's. You can't just judge keepers on clean sheets because the defense works as a unit. Attacks can bag goals even in **** teams with long hoof balls forward and individual brilliance or from set pieces.
It's hard to believe this is all some sort of clever plan involving Reina going to Barcelona next year when they don't even have a manager.
Oh come on! Reina wants to leave. So had to get someone in now rather than ending up with no one next year. Remember all the whinging when that happened last summer? Remember it was that prick that started all this. He tried public pressure & thankfully we now seem to have a management team that says feck you to upity players. Not paying him 100k a week to play at best half a season. Can't justify buying a keeper and not playing him. Fairly simple. WAS best keeper we've had in years. Want to be competitive we have no time for picking a team based on nostalgia. He hasn't been THAT keeper for 2 years. **** lets pick Ian Rush because he was one of our best strikers ever.... The bullshit about competition for places? Good bullshit. Did you want Brendan doing a Moyes with Rooney and saying well Pepe is valuable if Mingnolet gets injured?!!!! What if we hadn't got rid? An unhappy & insulted Reina in the squad that's what. This way a good servant keeps his dignity which is more than I would have done for him after lifting his skirts publicly at Barca & forcing our hand early. But it also meant people weren't coming bargain shopping with another unhappy player pressuring for a move. Luckily we've got someone to take him off our hands for a year & quite frankly I don't care if its Barca or Napoli who buy him next year: he stopped being our player when he says he didn't want to be one anymore. And he did, he may have backtracked when Valdes screwed it up by staying but he wanted to leave. Well; he's got his wish. Nobody was whinging when they thought he was going 5 weeks ago to Barca. Then there was whinging about having two expensive keepers, now there's whinging because that problem( and we all saw it as a problem) has been solved. Jeez people the club can never win can it? Best solution to a temporary problem. Of course we could read into it all our worst fears and conspiracy theories and join up all the dots to mean BR is Fergie in disguise, we're so broke Linda is turning tricks in Boston to get us a new CB and Ayre is staying in Asia as a ladyboy.....I mean it can't just be as simple as dealing early with a player who has stopped showing loyalty, getting in his replacement while they're reasonably priced & showing preference to the player who wants to play for us rather than doesn't ? Noooo that's too simple. And whoever buys him next year: his price will be higher playing regular than only half a season or no games at all....
How many teams with two good 'keepers rotate them on a regular basis? If we'd accepted that Mig is the future then Pepe surely would have spent most, if not all, of this season with his arse parked on our bench. What would that do to his value? Again, imo, we knew he was going soon and we wanted to act quickly to get a top class replacement. If we'd have waited until Barca came calling next year our targets might have moved on so we had to act now. Of course we'd have been happy with him as back-up but would he? Edit: Just read frank's post which says the same thing- only more so.
you've missed the points. 1. I have been slate don here before for daring to suggest pepe flogged a few. I also praised him for picking it back up so I do NOT see where you come from with upity players and such. pepe never said a word about wanting to go ... EVER. 2. pick rush? whats that about. are you saying that mingolet is better than pepe reina? reian is still class and improved a lot over last 8 months of last season 3. the bullshit? if you are fine with being lied to fine......i'm not. 4. as for the rest about ladyboys and turning tricks is just plain being silly.
