I dont blame them for leaving , they can see that something is very wrong at Arsenal if you cant motivate the team to beat the likes of Birmingham City , Bradford and Blackburn , even leighton Orient wasnt a walk in the park ffs. Van Persie could have stayed another 10 years and we would be no more successful. They have to take some of the blame for lack of success too. But a good manager gets THE BEST from ANY team . Wenger could barely get consistency from that group let alone success. Given that team , what do you think SAF would have acheived ? The same or more ?
but if the biggest probvlem with you team is finishing , actually sticking the ball in the net , then ONE class player can make or break you. You are right , most of spurs players are mediocre , but they still finished just one slot below us...thanks to the chimp lookalike .
Not as if other teas haven't gotten upset in the past. Yeah the manager has to stroke the player, hold their hand and force them to play. Right? They're not the ones who are on the pitch its the manager right? Their not the ones who ultimately put in the performances right? Tactics only go so far. If they're not "motivated" then **** them. Useless excuses for them to downplay THEIR crap performances. If they constantly need "motivation" then they shouldn't be playing professional football. They have a job to do and their paychecks alone should be enough motivation.
Wenger's biggest problem is that he is always going to be judged against SAF. Judge him against almost anyone else, and he is going to come up better. Look, this isn't a cut and dried thing. If you do x in every situation y happens. Sometimes scoring by committee works well, sometimes having a star striker works well. Sometimes you win with kids, sometimes it takes and experienced team. Sometimes being consistent is great, sometimes you can lose quite a bit but win the big games. There is no one way to win this game. If there was it wouldn't be so much fun. We can bash Wenger or we can support him, but the truth is that if you changed very few results over the last 10 years (the final against Barcelona, the league cup final, an extra win or 2 in the league one year) he would be untouchable. If he is doing something wrong, it isn't something obvious and massive.
but doent he keep telling us about THEIR mental strenght and belief ? surely he is not lying is he ? So if they HAVE them qualities........that leaves HIS tactics dont it , i am intrigued about what YOU think is the problem at Arsenal. Some people are lightening quick to shoot down anyones slightest critiscism , but they dont put forward THEIR take on what the problem is . Is it coz they dont know , or that they know but wont say for fear of being accused of being a spurs fan , like i have been . ps , yeah the other big teams have been upset in the odd competiton , but they have ALL won stuff in other competions during our barren period which proves that with them its just a glitch , with Arsenal ......its something more insidious .
Crap - this old argument again. This has been done almost to death. The attack goes "We are not winning trophies so we must be doing something wrong." The defence goes, "You could be a perfect manager and still not win, if you don't have access to the top players." It really is that simple. My own view is that, even with the same players, luck, injuries and form, provide enough variables to ensure that no manager can guarantee winning for his team. SAF could do everything exactly the same in a number of parallel universes, and in a few of them he would not win a damn thing.
Its been 8 years since Wenger has had his finances restricted. I think it's foolish to offer him a new contract before we see what he can do with more money. Does he still have what it takes to win the league? There's no doubt he's made some quality signings but are they of the quality that we used to bring in?.. Carzorla is probably the only one who Would make it into our 2000-2004 teams. There's certainly a higher ratio of mediocrity than there were 10-12 years ago. If this is down to the likes of City raising the prices then this Summer we will see what Wenger is made of. No excuses.. money is available. Time to see if Wenger still has what it takes.
indeed it is , and it will be interesting to see what level of support he gets from his die hard supporters if we fail to acheive more than the glorious 4th spot again THIS season . He keeps telling us hes got the money now , lets see if he has the nous too...to compete with our one time rivals.
I've said this too in an earlier post. How can he get a contract extension without seeing what he does in the coming season. We seem to have a large transfer fund available so logic states he should be judged after this coming season. I'm frankly bored of all these stories flying about how massive our budget is and how we are going to get some players in. Even with mega bucks we are stuggling to get anyone big in whereas Man City have bought 3 and another one is imminent. This Higuain/Suarez/whoever is coming is going to drag on to death I suspect.
Of course he was going to getting offered a new contract. The guy is the perfect manager for our board. Spends **** all, and makes loads. Like I said, perfect.
Past 5 years: Sanogo, Podokski, Giroud, Cazorla, Monreal, Oxo, Jenkinson, Gervinho, Santos, Park, Arteta, Mertersacker, Eis, Chammy, Kos, Squill, Ryo, Verm, Campbell, Arshavin Some duds Some quality Some youth We always spend every damn window but people ALWAYS overlook it because of the players leaving. This window since no one major is leaving everyone is bitching because nothing has happened. Then when we eventually sign people will look back and see how pointless the unnecessary stress they put on themselves was
I said realistically. Do you really See AW paying over 20 million (let alone double that) for 1 player.
When the Brazilian pie eater left he was the 23rd Arsenal player out the door this Summer, and Sanogo so far is the sole aquisition. There will be arrivals, just has to be.....
Suarez is definitely realistic. The only thing stopping it from happening is Wenger, imo. Does he have the balls to break the bank on a top player or is he worried that he won't live up to expectations and the gamble is too big? Suarez is there waiting for anybody to take him, he is open to moving to London and we can offer him Champions League football (and with him in the team, a chance at major trophies). But there is always the possibility he might flop, get banned, injured, cause trouble and then we are ****ed. Can Wenger take that gamble considering he will cost upwards of £45M (or less than that if Suarez hands in a transfer request and kicks up a fuss), which he isn't even worth? Considering he hasn't taken gambles on cheaper alternatives in the past, I doubt it.
I can't see Suarez being a flop. He's been consistently excellent in a crap Liverpool side, he's been Uruguay's star performer (easily outplaying Cavani) for the past 2 years, and he's easily technically gifted enough for our system. I know he has to miss the first 6 league games, but even so, it would be worth it. But, as you said, the problem is Wenger. He won't pay the money needed to get Suarez.
