Just a rumour right now. Be nice if it's true, but I reckon it would be a long drawn out process regardless. Potentially Berbatov-esque in dragging on through the summer and only be resolved if Bale forces the issue in August. Heinze didn't really know he had that option at the time tho'. We essentially hawked him around Europe to keep him out of the hands of Liverpool. I think if it came to a similar situation with Rooney we'd be able to get clubs interested, even if we had to accept a relatively low fee compared to what Chelsea would pay.
That was Mourinho's quote. He was asked "is it Rooney or bust" and replied yes. Tho' that may just be a case of the press asking the question to try and get a good quote.
See I dont think Utd have that kind of fear to be honest. They wont allow themselves to be ripped off, but I seriously dont think they will let him rot in their reserves. They would prefer not sell him to Chelsea, and will look for other punters.....but unless another club comes in with a serious offer, or Rooney has a change of heart (unlikely now), he will be coming to Chelsea.
Can't see Rooney going for 30 million, I reckon we might accept 40 mil but only if we have a replacement otherwise there is no point, the club likes to win and it won't hamper it's chances over a bit more cash.
that it seem even Hulk is going to France too !! who is left? Suarez? can't see chelsea signing him after biting accident not to mention the baggage of bad boy that comes with his skills not to mention that Rooney is more the type of players Jose prefer over skilled one such as Suarez
I can see UTD sticking to a figure around 40m .. but in all honesty, Rooney ain't worth that much, 30-35m sound right .. he is not better than RVP who cost 25m , with Rooney just one year younger compared to RVP last season may be UTD will sell even at lower than 40m if Bale is in the radar or any other replacement as you said
I know that, just don't see the relation to it being desperate? Not getting this rubbish about "Jose type players", every manager has their own criteria of player but he's managed different kinds of players throughout his entire career, I.e. Deco, Carvalho, Duff, Robben, Cole, Sneijder, Ozil, Alonso, Marcelo, Modric. He likes world class players just like any other manager. I agree though I can't see us getting Suarez and I hope we don't either.
The fact Jose said Rooney or bust means 1 of 2 situations. 1- It is true and we are happy with what we have but if we can get Rooney then great. 2 - It is a cleverly worded comment to basically build the ego of the player so that he fancies the move more but if it fails we will turn elsewhere. Assuming it is 1, that doesn't to me suggest we are desperate for a striker. It just say we will go for a good player if we feel he may be available, same as most top clubs. Same as United last year with RVP. Had you not got him I doubt you'd have got another striker in at that expense. As for other options, many have gone for silly money which shows we wont be held to ransom by any club now. However there are still the likes of Jovetic, Hulk, Gomez, Higuain, Benteke maybe even Ibrahimovic etc out there and potentially available if we really really wanted another forward.
I can't believe he'd be content as it is now. Lukaku could be fantastic but is still very young. Torres and Ba are what they are. I'd be amazed if he doesn't spend £20m+ on a forward. Zamora is available.
My feeling, as I have stated above, is that Chelsea will get him, unless another club makes a serious offer as Utd wont want to sell to us. It wont be till mid August for two reasons: 1) United will want to get as much for him as possible 2) United will want to see what player(s) they can sign as a replacement I think all this talk of United leaving a stroppy, unhappy Rooney in the reserves on 180k a week or whatever he is on is nonsense. Especially when they can get £30m upwards for him. You forget these clubs are run by business men, not football fans
true... Jose had different types of players, but what that tells you is that he want to mix it up, current Chelsea team have lots of attacking players who not do their jobs defensively which was one of main reason why you struggled last season. this is why rooney will fit the new chelsea better funny that you mentioned robben, bcz Jose was not a big fan of the dutch style and you mentioned many of players he had in Real, well many of them were not his choices but Real choices wanting him to play more attractive football, and we seen how that went in REAL with Jose struggling to keep the balance right
I think it will probably be before the season starts, but I guess that depends on what kind of second bid Chelsea make. If, as some reports state, our opening bid was 16m, thats a little silly to be honest. I would have opened up at 25m and gone from there. Utd wont let him go for less than £30m I am certain, maybe £35m. So I suppose it will be however long it takes United to get us to bid that high, and how soon they target and secure his replacement.
I think it's only worth spending if you improve on what you have. Cavani and Falcao would have done that but there are a lot of forwards out there that are unproven in the P.L and have promise but would carry risk. At least our 3 are P.L proven and in Torres' case, coming off the back of his best season for us. His league goals return was poor but scored some important goals. As much as there is room for improvement, I think this perception that we are weak up front is overstated. We just don't have a forward as good as RVP and Aguero have been these last couple of years. Torres on form is up there with them though and maybe Jose thinks he can get more consistency and/or he see enough in Lukaku to give him a punt. With Ba, Lukaku back and Shurrle (who can play up front) we are in a much better position than the start of last year.
No point bidding anymore until Rooney hands in a request. I think only then United will consider selling. If United are bidding around the mid 20's for Fabregas, that's the sort of level we should be bidding at.
you are desperate for strikers, Torres is average and inconsistent , Ba is a good sub not a good main ST and heard he may be leaving to Anzhi , who is left? lukaku? not sure he is ready yet to be your main striker. this is why you wanted Cavani & Falcao & Hulk now regarding players you mentioned Jovetic: he play behind ST, and you have many players who play at this position already and with similar style Hulk: he is going to Monaco Gomez: not a world class Higuain: a good ST, but not a world class Benteke : he need to prove himself , one season is not enough .. i remember Papiss Cisse was on fire 2 seasons ago let us admit Rooney fit Jose style better, and is deferent type of player than rest of your attacking set, and he is the only world class striker available, so it is no brainer is him or nothing
Not sure what fear you are referring to? The only thing we could potentially fear is that Chelsea buying Rooney would give them the edge over us in the title race. Which is precisely why we'd much rather sell him to an overseas club, even if it means we get less cash from the deal.
Agreed. But for that to happen, an overseas club would have to show interest, and they haven't so far. Besides, as I have already stated, Rooney struggles with English most of the time, so I cant see him abroad. If a European club come in with a serious offer, and Rooney decides he wants to go abroad, then we might not get him, otherwise there is only one destination. p.s that is exactly the kind of fear I meant Swarbs.
Torres top scorer at Euros and Confeds without even starting every game and had his best season last year in about the last 4. He is not on RVP's/Suarez's level but he's by no means average. Ba was one of the top scorers in the league for the 12 months before he joined us (and then stopped being picked every game). If Higuain is not world class, who are you putting into the world class bracket?! He's certainly in the same ball park as Rooney class-wise. However can't see him coming to us given Jose wasn't picking him at Real. Gomez is also a fine player and just not getting game time cos the manager preferred someone else. He was banging them in before that.
