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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Im talking about the different views on the enforced Irish hunger. You say famine, I say murder.

    Check out the words of Mr Travalian and make your mind up.
     
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  2. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    So resentment then?

    I say famine because that is what I've been taught.
     
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  3. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    I live in Derry, the events Saville was reporting on happened in Derry. Not many more nationalist places than where I was drinking that day
     
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  4. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Well yeah, that is what you have been taught, rather easier to place the blame on the failed crop than the intransigence of the British Government.

    And that isn't your fault what you get told but it rather perpetuates a myth.
     
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  5. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    I expect nothing off the Anglos.

    What I want is a withdrawel and your bastard child the Orange Order to be told to behave like normal human beings.

    That ok?

    Britain created the monster, its up to you to kill it
     
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  6. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    Fair enough <ok>

    No probs, I'll have a word with Dave.
     
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  7. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    What a thick pikey mutant this **** is <doh>
     
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    Deleted 1 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I think if anything a lot of Welsh are way more bitter - I know it's not a massive barometer but you only have to look at the bear pit of pure hatred that is the millenium Stadium every time the rugby team play there. It's not like that in Dublin.
     
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  11. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    How many English civilians have Welsh terrorist groups killed though?
     
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    Can only speak from experience but pretty much all the Irish people I know (admittedly 90% from the South) would never condone that and actually don't really support the RA - well not in public anyway. There just seems to be more bitterness and hostility from the Welsh in my experience.
     
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  13. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    I avoid the welsh at all times, therefore cannot give an evidence based opinion.
     
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  14. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Jip, feel free to correct me but asking that question reads like you think Irish Republican groups were just lashing out at the English? Any English civilians that were killed would have been considered collateral damage and not the target. Not an especially nice thing to have happen but hardly indicative of an attitude towards a people.

    I feel that the "they just hate the English/British" is a fall back stance that portrayed the Republican grievances as being irrational and unfathomable. Much of that portrayal of the narrative is to insulate the British government from any culpability in its role in all this.
     
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  15. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    Come home to a real fire, buy a cottage in Wales <whistle>
     
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  16. RAVENBLACK

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    I don't think there's anything "great" about being hungry to be honest.
     
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  17. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    The Welsh are deeply weird.
     
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    BrAdY Well-Known Member

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    From my experience there is no doubt more bitterness towards the english from the welsh than the irish especially in northern wales
     
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    Ya want discharge? Seek out Tina. She has enough for every ****er serving.

    Yacontcha!
     
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