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The Grassy Knoll Gunmen)The Jim Garrison Tapes

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jonathan acworth 71, Jul 15, 2013.

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ok lets do a poll who thinks the following on jfk?

Poll closed Aug 14, 2013.
  1. oswald lone gunman

    3 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. more than one gunman?ie crossfire?

    8 vote(s)
    72.7%
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  1. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    <laugh>

    At ma school? Are ye ****in serious? Aye. We had a Chess Club as well.
     
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  2. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with a chess club? Don't tell me you didn't get Drama lessons either?

    Fucking hell, I'm such a middle-class **** <laugh>
     
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  3. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    I went to a peasants school in rural France and we had music lessons and a chess club.

    The kids that went there were all planning on taking over their dad's farm or becoming builders.

    I guess it's only in Scotland that it's seen as posh...
     
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  4. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Nope,

    I had music lessons at school.

    I was ****e at the recorder.

    In fact at end of term we were able to bring in vinyl and, by a strange quirk, someone brought in Orgasm Addict. That put an end to that.
     
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  5. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    It was seen as posh in my area when I were a lad.

    All changed now. Nieces and nephews did all that stuff at school as well as extra-curricular(sp?) activities like dance and gymnastics and such with nary a one getting their **** kicked in for it.
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Where did I categorically state anything apart from stuff that has already been established? ie Witness testimony is wholly unreliable.
     
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  7. Otto Flayshow

    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    You categorically stated that there is NO evidence for a second gunman.

    Reliable or not, there is still plenty evidence that there may have been a second gunman.
     
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  8. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    None that I have seen nor heard of. JKF was hit twice, both shots came from behind him. One hit him in the back of the neck and exited his chest, the second hit him above and behind his left ear which caused the top right hand side of his head to blow out.

    If there was a gunman on the Grassy Knoll then he must have missed, because as I said, if he had used the same rounds as Oswald, JFK's head would have literally been blown off and injured Jackie Kennedy into the bargain.

    I'm not suggesting that there was no conspiracy, I believe there may have been but from all the available evidence it is clear there was no second shooter unless he was next to Oswald.

    For many years I believed what I read and bought into the whole idea of a conspiracy, of triangulation of fire and 2 or possibly 3 shooters, and over time it became clear that most of the stuff in JFK (the movie) and what is on the Internet and in Books (I have read several) is utter garbage, made up or imagined, either way it did more harm than good because it provided the CTers with even more spurious evidence to back up the theories.

    Every witness at Dealey Plaza had their own story and plenty of people gave different opinions on where the shots came from. Mostly Civilians it should be noted. I've been shot at, and I could not tell you where the shot came from despite all my training and experience so why should the many witnesses - all with different versions of events - statements be taken as being trustworthy.
     
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  9. jonathan acworth 71

    jonathan acworth 71 Well-Known Member

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    This is my take on it chaps)2 gunman situated behind the picket fence on the knoll spotted by several whitnesses on the overpass overlooking the whole plazza.You also have Lee Bowers in the watchtower behind the picket fence.Bowers stated he saw a car circle sevreal times before the shooting with a man talking on a telephone within the car.Then he sees 2 men standing behind the picket fence carrying what he thinks was a rifle.His words a flash of light happened from that area like something out of the ordinary happened on the knoll area.Whitnesses on the overpass sm holland sees a puff of smoke comming from behind the fence,he tells reporters that their was a load of footprints and mud on the car bonet parked next to the knoll area like if someone had been sitting on the bonnet to get a clear shot.

    Then u have mafia hitman Jim Braden arrested in the Dal Tex building without proper excuse.Sorry but any true investigator looking into all these facts would have realised that more than one shooter happened in the area theirfore a conspiracy carried out by the cia -ask yourself who benefited from jfk death lyndon johnson and the cia not forgetting the mafia who saw their profits double.Oswald was just a fall guy in the wrong place at the wrong time .
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Which of JFK's 2 wounds was caused by a shot from the grassy knoll?
     
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  11. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    Erm apart from the U.S. government. The select committee concluded that JFK was killed as prt of a conspiracy and that there was a second shooter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

    Conclusions regarding the Kennedy assassination

    On the Kennedy assassination, the HSCA concluded in its 1979 report that:

    Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots at Kennedy. The second and third shots Oswald fired struck the President. The third shot he fired successfully killed the President.

    Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that at least two gunmen fired at the President. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations.

    The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy.
     
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  12. jonathan acworth 71

    jonathan acworth 71 Well-Known Member

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    i say throat wound and head explosion
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    As I said Eric, I am not convinced there was no conspiracy but I am 100% convinced that Oswald's shot killed Kennedy.
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Both from the rear.
     
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  15. jonathan acworth 71

    jonathan acworth 71 Well-Known Member

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    front windscreen of motorcade smashed to pieces so looks like first bullet fired from fence through motorcade and hits kennedy in the throat this was later covered up bu autopsey hope someone can put jfk autopsey photos up bit grusome
     
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  16. jonathan acworth 71

    jonathan acworth 71 Well-Known Member

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    How could oswald have fired from that position?he was crap sharp shooter?and also a texas oak in full blocking any clear view no way
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

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    Kennedy's back. 1 entry wound.
     
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  18. jonathan acworth 71

    jonathan acworth 71 Well-Known Member

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    throat one proves it
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Already been dealt with so stop repeating stuff that you have already seen is wrong.
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    So you have gone from saying both shots came from the side to saying 1 shot came from the side?
     
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