Tougher? You must be having a laugh. It is widely accepted that todays standards are complete mamby pamby compared to the game as it was back in the day. You should know this - you basically kicked your way back out of the second division following your relegation in 1974. Have you never heard of Billy Bremner? Ron "Chopper" Harris? Norman "Bites tour legs" Hunter? Tommy Smith? As for a damn sight more professional - Yeah, they're all model pros today aren't they Extra marital affairs Serial Diving Appearing on "Celebrity" shows & magazines Lack of respect for officialdom Assaulting fans None of this was in evidence prior to the formation of the Premiership, so don't come out with this bollocks.
The number of passes they managed last Saturday? Amount of time in possession of the ball on Saturday?
Was waiting for an idiotic response like this. Tougher as in its harder to win games through ability not thuggish behaviour. If you want a fight then watch UFC or boxing. Footballs called football because its not boxing or UFC ok. Simple enough for you I hope. Oh and as for your point about no scandels before the PL......are you injecting smack as you type. **** sake what a moron.
That isn't evidence, it's a correlation. Look up the difference between a correlation and a causation. It's not even a very good correlation: Liverpool vs AC Milan 2005 AC Milan vs Liverpool 2007 Bayern Munich vs Inter 2010 That's your Liverpools, your Milans and your Bayern Munichs. Sheesh, it really is rocket science. Tell it to Fergie. He says you're not.
I said as often. these teams dominated the much easier European Cup. Nottingham Forest won it for god sake. Just wouldnt happen now as the standards are much higher. I mean in the past Real Madrid and Barcelona never played in the same year. Milan and Inter never did. You are right, its not rocket science so why are you making such hard work of it?
You're previous replies are dross and don't even attempt to defend your ludicrous statements. So you didn't win the league, therefore you weren't even the best in England - therefore were never the best in Europe. Therefore it was harder to win, you've just admitted that by saying you didn't win the league. Thankyou for catching yourself out, I was getting bored.
Big fail pal. Huge fail even. Only 1 team from each league could compete in the past meaning some of the best teams in the world didnt take part. Now they do. I mean are you claiming your 2005 win doesnt count then?
As often? WTF? Three finals in five years is often. How often do you want them to be in the final? Your argument got busted and now you're desperately trying to backpedal. Again rehashing your argument. Forest won the league. You came 2nd in 1999. Forest were the better team. All this talk of fitness levels now is nonsense. It's all relative. You don't qualify 1968 with an, "Ah, but Benfica were not as fit as Barca today." Because they didn't win their leagues. Didn't qualify, didn't play. Take the CL qualifying group stage out, which is full of filler, and you've got fewer games to win than in the European Cup. I said it is rocket science but you're right that it is hard work debating with a child who doesn't have a clue and backtracks on his simple correlations as soon as they're disproven with facts. This final is well and truly over.
I said it was harder in 1999 than 1968 so unlucky on your entire post. You liverpool fans really are morons. I thought it was just KPR but its much worse than that. I mean your arguments are bullshit and only suit your views. I have said its harder to win now as it blatantly is now. I mean in the old format teams got byes into the latter stages and only 1 team per league played. Now all the big teams play. I mean if you think just because someone wins the Hungarian league it makes them better than the team that finishes 2nd in La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga or the PL? If you do then this conversation is over as I am dealing with an escaped mental patient. use some ****ing sense.
You hurt my head United19Red Some ludicrous things being said in this thread. I'd love to get into a debate but it's blatantly obvious that you'd rather castrate yourself than admit that your argument has been blown to pieces
Who is this stupid ****ing gimp? This is the weakest argument I've seen on any thread on here. Must actually be from Manchester. Thick ****.
Look dollface. The only gimp in this thread is KPR. Morons a plenty though, yourself included. Only liverpool fans disagree that its harder to win now than when it was the European cups but then again, only liverpool fans live in the past. You have no future so its easier to see why.
Your logic is completely false. The best of one country goes into the European cup. The best of the European cup wins. Therefore the best of the best wins the cup. Our 2005 win did count, It just meant we got a bit lucky. Were we best in England at the time? No, Were we the best in Europe? Probably not - any Liverpool fan will you tell you our team at the time was distinctly average.
yernited 19red is lost, this is for 5 times euro champs, not euro elite wannabes How he actually, like others i wont mention, plans to prove the new format is more difficult when a mediocre united can make 3 finals in 4 years, after playing Marseille SCHALKE!?! and chelsea, united did not have one challenge until the final, and they say it is harder. LMFAO, they say it is harder because they have had 4 finals in it, if it was reverse and they had won it then and we had current success the argument would be, oh it was harder then, why because yernited fans are so blinkered and such bad losers that they would cheat their grannies at monopoly they'll blam on about teams are better fitness ect, not ermemberning all teams then were less fit all teams suffered from simpler tactics not just the teams hey are unfamiliar with, games they are unfamiliar with, professing to have watched them all, sheite talkers lol They research and assemble nuggets, it all comes frm memory with me, I may get it wrong some times but at least I am not regurgitating copied info like this twat and other frequent manc visitors in an pathetic attempt to make them look knowledgeable, reading something and spouting it out here is human copy paste, sheitebags really, pathetic desire to appear intelligent
I'm sure it's more that just Liverpool fans do you think before you type things? Another ludicrous, unfounded statement from United19Red. You're meant to dig up stupid! It's a very simple argument. To get into the European Cup you had to win your league, then you couldn't afford a single slip up from the beginning or you were out? I think that makes it much harder to win than the current format. It is a similar competition once you get into the knock-out stages though.
Show me the evidence. And I dont mean you some thick manc schoolboy that aspires to work for MacDonalds when he leaves school. Come on, show us all the evidence to back up your non-existent argument. You mentioned it was easier to win, and even Notts Forrest had won it as part of your argument. News for you dickhead, they were the League champions at the time, therefore by default the best in England at that time. Time moves on and they are nowhere near that now, but they deserved to win it when they did, and in fact had an outstanding team. The world doesn't revolve around that ****pit you call Manchester and football wasn't invented in 1992. **** off back to your hole and come back on here when you can have an adult debate. PRICK.
Why dont you go watch the final again and then watch how we beat Barca twice at the nou, watch the milan 2005 final again, cry again, and then call fergie and let him in on the secret of how to win a game and not have to depend on Terry slipping or two jammy last minute goals, 99 was by far uniteds best ever team and they were overshadowed by bayern even though they lost and have not once been the actual best side in europe probably ever, nice lucky draw again this season led you to believe ye wwere actually going to make the final a contest. But hey, its all good now that you have signed owen for another season Lastly UNited fans are trying to trash this thread because they will never have one on their board, fkn jealousy, even though they won the league and made the cl final and beat the title record they still are not happy because someone else has something they want.
