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OT - The Pub Quiz Thread

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  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    A stadium I've been in many years ago and it was open topped then, Marsielle?...
     
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  2. colognehornet

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    I will give you that one - originally I thought it was the Stade Velodrome in Marseilles - but on reflection Barcelona do actually have more people watching in the open. Over to you.
     
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  3. qprbeth

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    Oh s'''' didn't expect that. Hang on a second
     
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  4. qprbeth

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    Was reading about Towton today (most drown).....no not a clue!!!


    Who was the last UK monarch to be killed in battle
     
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  5. Sooperhoop

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    Richard III at Bosworth Field, they've recently found him under a car park...
     
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    Nope....UK monach
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    Without looking him up there was a Scottish King James killed at Flodden, can't remember which one though...
     
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  9. qprbeth

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    Correct sooper.....james IV of scotland
    over to you
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

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    Battle of Towton

    29 March 1461

    The Battle of Towton was the bloodiest ever fought on British soil, with casualties believed to have been in excess of twenty thousand (perhaps as many as thirty thousand) men. The battle took place on a snowy 29 March 1461 (Palm Sunday) on a plateau between the villages of Towton and Saxton in Yorkshire (about 12 miles southwest of York and about 2 miles south of Tadcaster).

    Part of the reason so many died is perhaps because in the parley before the battle both sides agreed that no quarter would be given or asked, as they hoped to end it there and then.

    At this point in the civil war, the Lancastrians were on equal terms with the Yorkists, having eliminated Richard, Duke of York and the Earl of Salisbury from the scene at the Battle of Wakefield, and been victorious at the Second Battle of St Albans. However, the Earl of Warwick, controlled London and had proclaimed the eldest of York's sons as King Edward IV of England. It was Edward himself who decided to take the initiative and march north in the hope of inflicting a final defeat on his rival, King Henry VI of England. Henry, a pious and peace-loving man, took no part in any military decisions, but allowed his queen, Margaret of Anjou, complete freedom to employ her battle commanders, chief of whom was the Duke of Somerset, on his behalf.

    It is thought that fifty thousand, or perhaps even eighty thousand men fought, including twenty-eight Lords (almost half the peerage), mainly on the Lancastrian side. The numbers often given are forty-two thousand for the Lancastrians and thirty-six thousand for the Yorkists. This is one of the few battles in English history, perhaps the only, where the fighting was so violent that the front lines were frequently forced to stop and remove the bodies to be able to get at each other.

    The Battle

    The two armies were both divided into three battles (divisions), four hours were spent as the huge masses of men lined up in the blizzard conditions and awaited the final stragglers. Finally Lord Fauconberg took the initiative as the wind changed direction and blew the snow into the Lancastrians' faces. He led his archers forth and sent a rain of arrows into the massed Lancastrian ranks. Visibility was bad and with the wind blowing in their faces the returning volley of Lancastrian arrows fell way short of their targets. As casualties mounted the Lancastrian army knew the only way to stop the slaughter was to engage the enemy (in Towton 1461, the author calculates that Fauconberg would have been sending about 120,000 arrows a minute into the enemy ranks). In a last clever move, Fauconberg ordered his men (who had loosened all their own arrows by now) to retrieve some of the enemy shaft in the turf before them, while leaving some as obstacles for the oncoming Lancastrians.

    Weight of numbers pushed the Yorkist back initially, but the Earl of Warwick and Edward both fought in the front ranks to encourage their men. As the hours passed the Yorkist found themselves giving more and more ground until they came close to Castle wood. From here two hundred spearmen launched a surprise attack on the Yorkist left flank. Hundreds of men fled and Edward was forced to use his whole reserve to stop it breaking up.

    In the middle of the afternoon the Earl of Norfolk arrived with several thousand fresh men. The Yorkists fought on with new determination for about an hour, when very suddenly the Lancastrian line broke and thousands of men fled the field.



    The Rout

    It is supposed that far more men died in the rout that in the battle. Several bridges over neighboring rivers broke under the weight of the armed men, plunging many into the freezing water. Those stranded on the other side ether drowned in the crossing or were cornered by the pursuers and killed. Some of the worst slaughter was seen at Bloody Meadow where it is said men crossed the River Cock over the bodies of the fallen. All the way from Towton to Tadcaster the fields were full of bodies. The fleeing men made easy targets for horsemen and footsoldiers killed many men who had dropped their weapons and thrown off their helmets to breath more freely. At Tadcaster some men made an unsuccessful stand and were killed.

    The rout lasted all night and into the morning beyond when remnants of the army arrived at York in total panic. Margaret, Henry and Somerset fled north to Scotland, while those Lancastrian lords who were not killed or dispossessed were forced to make peace with Edward VI.
     
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    amazing what you can learn at a pub quiz
     
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  12. colognehornet

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    And all those who were not Kings, Dukes, Earls, Lords or Barons - meaning the majority,those whose only crime was to be caught up in someone else's history,those for whom The Duke of this that or the other was just a name - why did they not say no ? (Not a question in the thread by the way )
     
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  13. sb_73

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    Not the appropriate place to go into the complexities of the feudal system in early modern Europe, but I'm pretty sure the system of obligation that had been in operation for centuries meant they didn't even think about it. Plus the opportunity to loot a bit.

    I'm glad this question has stirred such interest, one of the mysterious ignored bits of our history.
     
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  14. Rollercoaster Ranger

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    Sooperhoop doesn't seem to be around so...

    Which London Underground station has the same name as a station on the Paris Metro?
     
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    I was waiting for Daverangers to exclaim 'call that a question', and I'm sure many on here have hung around Paris enough to get this. I think you are after Temple, but you could also have St Paul, Olympiades (Olympia) or the more imaginative Hotel de Ville (Mansion House).
     
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  16. Sooperhoop

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    St. Paul's?...
     
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  18. Rollercoaster Ranger

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    Temple is correct.

    Note from Pedant Corner: The others you mention are admittedly very similar, but not the same.
     
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  19. sb_73

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    Ha! Like the theme though, so here's another metro (not necessarily Paris) linked question. If you got off the train at Lotto, which stadium could you be going to?
     
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  20. colognehornet

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    San Siro in Milan ?
     
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