All this stuff from the FA is really starting to wind me up now. Every time any thing negative looking comes along for the England team they rush to blame the Premier League and the PL Clubs. They are always passing the buck. Do they seriously not think that any of this is their own fault? This week it is foreigners in England clubs youth academies. In the past we have seen the amount of under 21 year old English players in PL first teams and the amount of foreign players in PL first teams. The FA need to stop passing the blame, take it upon themselves and correct what is going wrong. They need to reshape how football is taught at academies and grass roots levels before kids join clubs academies, as clubs dont sign any old kids, they sign kids who are already good footballers. They need to encourage them in a positive way and give the kids some thing to play for. They need to put more effort in to finding the right coaches and managers. Studying the best English talent, their strengths and weaknesses, what style suits those players best and finding managers and coaches for that style. I have made a thread in the past about young English talent going abroad. Andy Murrey moved to Spain as a teenager to get the best tennis coaching. The FA would still spin this as a negative thing but it could be a huge positive. PL clubs have to run their businesses and support there teams to be the best they can. If this involves foreign talent then so be it. The English PL club is the biggest in the world for a reason. Restrict this in favour of forcing English talent in and it wont be the biggest for much longer. Take some responsibility FA! Oh, and a winter break is needed for us to win the world cup! Even if we do build a squad to rival Spains.
I think there's a lot in what you are saying without question. The FA giving jobs to the boys like taylor and pearce needs to stop but the dilemma is the total lack of what i'd call really technical English coaches who would be of the standard to do the work. I do believe however english clubs are in the business of making big fat lump defenders, speedy wingers who end up as full backs and blind alley strikers. they simply don't make technical players or midfielders of any quality.. all the top clubs are using bad laws to "harvest" children and pay their families to move at 14/15 not 17 like they should. this needs to stop. If clubs can supplement in some guy at 14 then the kids whos a bit small but decent at 8-13 gets shoved out and you may as well never have coached him. Then you have the likes of assiadi turn up in the first team as well... its very difficult to change that one though, players have a right to move. how do you stop managers sign a degen when they have a darby in thier team... one decent but injury prone the other not great but reliable.... sadly though even with a winter break and a shotgun england cannot get past the QF stage...
I think the FA could even have some who is like a Director of Football or Technical Director of the England team. There are no transfers in international football but this some one could really help link things together. He could watch matches at all levels, spot the players, and spot them earlier, meet with them and talk about England. He could also discover what styles of players are coming through and find a common ground with the players in each age group, and use that knowledge to construct a plan and a vision for that generation of England players. Make sure they get the right international coaching and experience. He could help to establish a style that is known as the English Style, instead of Roys 'line up to counter the oppositions style'. This person could work to find managers and coaches for each levels of England teams that share a style and vision and help them to work together to build a long term future plan. Imagine a successful England manager retires, just around the same time as his golden generation of players are aging and/or retiring. The new golden generation from u21 level then has its time to step up, and the successful u21 manager moves with them, becoming the England senior manager. He shares the same ideas as the man he has replaced, he shares the vision and has already established it with the u21's, and as a result the good work continues, and a transition period is avoided. He could even go as far as researching and meeting multi national players who are eligible for England but maybe not obvious people to think of, or where it is not common knowledge. For example Hargreaves, the Canadian who played in Germany. Germany do this a lot. I do not care or think it matters what country this guy is from. In fact an English candidate may not exist. It is just about finding the right person.
English players simply aren't trained, taught or developed correctly to compete at the highest level any more. Those who make the grade are exceptionally gifted individuals who get there through their own ability rather than being developed. Look at LFC's young prospects. Nearly all of the British players are defensive; Robbo, Kelly, Wisdom, Coady, Flannagan previously and many others - whilst the forwards are foreign because they have that technical ability from early nurturing. England make great defenders, tough, physical, clear the line first priority players. The problem is that our youth coaches across the country are ****e and no one is there to improve them except the old has-beens.
they did have one... called trevor brooking... again a job for one of the boys... not a true candidate... sir bobby robson is the last guy qualified for this role.. nobody else is good enough and the zenophobes after capello and erikkson will only allow english muck. it'd be like turning the crown jewels over the the germans to the blaziers at the FA, give a foreigner control of policy??
I don't think the FA are to blame on this tbh. Kick and rush football is ingrained on them early on, not ball retention and so on, coaches of those kids teams want to win not indulge kids in skillful football. So much focus is on strength when balance is more important. Also there is no indulging skillful individuals its all team team team when tbh at a young age it should all be about the individual, the team stuff can come later on, skill and technique should be the focus of young players, there seems to be this inherent fear of losing possession, you see it when England play international football, at 0 0 its sideways pass to death and dire football, once they go a goal down they start to actually play and when they equalise its back to dire football once again. If England started a game in a mindset of being behind 3 goals at the whistle they might actually win a tournament. The FA are arseholes blaming the PL, the players are already ruined by the time they become pros
that is true sisu but come the age of 8 every half decent kid out there is donw the academy for a go at the big time. form that point on we should be better than that. we replace anyone small or whatever with foreigners... england are basically predictable. the u21s were easy meat, the u20s were the same and frnakly england seniors are plodding along predictably too.
I agree with Sisu (twice in one evening ), the youngsters in this country are taught wrong. It is all about winning from a very early age which, IMO, shouldn't be a factor until at least your teens. It should be about technique, working as a team, dealing with on pitch pressure, being calm under pressure, etc. If you see any of the young matches (there are several happening on a Sunday at our home ground before we play) it is all "clear your lines" and "hit it long" stuff, you see the parents on the sidelines swearing like a trooper and yelling for their kid to "get stuck in". These are not the things that youngsters should be hearing and it certainly doesn't help the youngsters learn. The good news is, competitive football for under seven's (I think, could be older?) as just been abolished in this country. Let's just hope the coaches realise why!
The youth system is a big cause of the problem, the kids these days are all taught to do exactly the same thing (incorrectly at that), like robots. If any of them try anything fancy or do something other than "playing it safe" or "playing by the numbers", they get a bollocking! I haven't seen any proper technique training or 5-a side circuits in a long time.
The FA have looked at the standard of coaching & are actually doing somehting about it, with a 'train the trainer' programme. However, their point about academies is totally correct. If youngsters get to that age bracket & are then competing on a 'world level' stage in their own locale, then it will inhibit the development of home grown players. As many more won't even enter the academy process & get the opportunity to develop.
That still happens as high as the adults leagues! A mate does all the fancy tricks and flicks, bit like with most like this, the success rate is low so he gets stick for it. People forget about the openings it creates.
In Brazil kids start off playing with a smaller ball, in a smaller team, on a smaller pitch with smaller goals. Oh and the players are smaller because they are children. In Germany kids start off playing with a smaller ball, in a smaller team, on a smaller pitch with smaller goals. Oh and the players are smaller because they are children. In England kids are given a full sized ball that goes almost up to there knees that is to big for them to really learn to control, they shoot at a goal far to big for a child keeper to keep and play on a pitch that is just a bit to big for them to work on. Short passes become long passes and short runs become long runs.
Full size ball? Field? Proper goals? I learnt to play with a tennis ball in the 18 vs 21 a side games in the school yard
school bags as goal posts and some one shouting 'nah that was over the cross bar!!!' when the shot was a meter off the ground? South American countries have their street football culture.
Absolutely. In off the post despite the post being seventeen school bags and about six foot wide I agree with what you said BTW
