Dear me what a horrible, nasty little affair this is to wake up to, can't say for sure but I think some people were trying to be funny or something? I think a few people might have been on the sauce last night, I hope they're feeling at least a little embarrassed when they read this back this morning
Wow! That's five minutes of my life I'll never get back! JWM, you really should stay off the sauce, I think you may have a problem! Carrabuh, you are a very naughty boy, knowing which buttons to press and send JWM spiraling out of control into the abyss! You must go and stand on the naughty step and say "I must be nice to JWM" 100 times!
I'd personally tell him to **** off, pull his head out of his arse and stop being such an obnoxious and irritating **** myself, but I guess we all see things differently don't we David.
My last bit of binner banning brought me a lot of grief, now I just let it roll unless it gets dodgy legally!
Why worry about 'binner banning' Dave? Ok, he called carrubah a prick. Maybe he has some experience of either having to claim benefits, or knows someone that does. From a personal point of view, unfortunately I recently lost my job, and find myself having to claim benefits for the first time in my working life, and I can assure you, it is not a pleasant experience. You are looked down on, you feel useless and worthless. Not pleasant at all. I find some of carrabuh's remarks last night very very insulting. As I read it, I don't see that JWM has done anything wrong. If anything, he seems to me to have been 'wronged'. Just my slant on it.
Don't know what all the fuss is about. There will be no welfare system once Osbourne and co. have finished their butchery.
Read my post again Munky, I said it was what HE would call banter if THE BOOT WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT! He has previous for being abusive and calling it banter when called to order!
Been too many petty rows on here just lately for my liking, so I think it we'll just have to agree to differ in our views on this one Dave
Ok, it must just be me then. Apologies for interrupting the 'banter', I'll go and crawl back under my rock now
Having watched the show last night I have to say once again it is the system that makes me angry. Now whether true (or playing to the camera's) or not I have some sympathy for the guy who had lost his job and was saying he would need to earn £18000 to be as well off as when on benefits. But he if applying for that many jobs seriously needs to work smarter not harder. How can you apply for more than 2-3 jobs a day and seriously address the employers needs in your CV and covering letter. Where my sympathy runs a little short though is them taking food from a food bank, something for the truely needy and having the rather expensive luxury of sky TV! I won't slate other luxuries that they had as these in theory were gotten whilst he was employed. The student, well where do you start! A ridiculous sense of entitlement, when will these dumbasses learn that if you start a job no matter which job it will show a willing so that others may then take a chance on you. He was clearly very spoilt with all his gadgets, but might his family help him a little more by cutting off these luxuries to an extent and saying you want them go earn them. They could for example buy him a suit instead of the latest apple device, then instead of looking "street" with his sports geer and nice baseball cap he may look a little more professional when handing out CV's. Just a seriously lazy B#@tard. That awful woman with the 7 pets! Oh I only got 2 of them since I lost my last job!!!!! She was the worst of the lot. I don't think there was an honest thing that came out of her mouth, she is the sort of shirker in chief that makes my blood boil From her bombsite front garden (Sorry Carrabuh, just her garden) to the mess in side what chance do her kids have of turning out as anything other than the next generation of teenmum statistics? Home dad, just no pride to actually try and work. Where are these kids mothers? And as for incapacity I have a colleague who has MS (a sh#tty hand dealt but he despirately wants to stay working) and there are jobs for those with his level of disability but lets face it a] he's not looking, b] who'd hire him now? Benefits are meant as a safety net not 22 years of lifestyle choice! Maestro, keep your chin up, I'm sure something will come up, anyone who wants to work will surely succeed in the end. Good luck. Bah!
this thread = WTF? and for what it's worth, other than continuously responding when he probably should have just walked away, i fail to see what warky has done wrong on this thread. i didn't see much banter. i'm almost certain that carrabuh must have been on the sauce last night. quite a tirade (and if i'm saying that... )
Munky, you still misunderstand my post! I was inferring that it is NOT banter, but when JWM has been equally abusive in the past as carrabuh was on here, when I've asked him to stop, he ALWAYS says it's only banter!
A beacon of light of a post. I am sure that the BBC picked those individuals to get a reaction - lazy graduate with a media degree being too good to do shopwork and holding out for a "career". Having all of the latest gadgets and expensive clothes whilst owing £40k (mostly in student loans I'd imagine) is taking the proverbial out of his creditors. I honestly just wanted to go and shake him out of his stupor. Feckless single mum smoking, drinking and rearing a menagerie of children and animals and actully saying that her animals were as important ot her as her children. I just don't get how you can have as much free time as she clearly does and live in such filth. Her sense of entitlement was total and totally misplaced. The bloke who was a career doletite dad seemed likable but was feeble. At least he appeared to be trying to do well by his kids. The family on £1800/month really are an example of a huge problem with the system. You should not have a situation where someone needs to earn that much to come off the dole. To break even he would have to have a job with a salary of around £27k which appeared way above his skill set. Overall a sad inditement on the individuals and the system but made to ensure a reaction. Yes, it's funny that it was set in Ipswich but let's not kids ourselves that we don't have people and estates which are equally bad. I don't know if anyone saw the programme before where there was a pensioned widower who couldn't remember that the last time he ate beef or had a chicken supper and had a £20/week food budget. The contrast between his struggle and the flat screened tv with Sky plus and Apple gadgets of those on the subsequent programme was both sad and stark. The reality is that whilst the country subsidises so many people we will continue to struggle economically. The people illustrated on the documentary took approx £50k to support which is £50k which could employ 3 nurses or a coupe of teachers/policemen or provide tax cuts to everyone else. Choices for us all to ponder.
I don't know if anyone saw the programme before where there was a pensioned widower who couldn't remember that the last time he ate beef or had a chicken supper and had a £20/week food budget. The contrast between his struggle and the flat screened tv with Sky plus and Apple gadgets of those on the subsequent programme was both sad and stark. I saw it too and its unbelievable, this was a man who had worked his whole life and is reduced to this when others are milking the system by mastering the very simple principle of Find lazy unemployed bum, bump ugly bits with said bum, 9 months later extend hand for many handouts! Bah!
