Pete, if I may call you Peter. Not meaning to drag up old stuff or embarrass you in anyway, but if I recall correctly, out of interest, didn't some of the blokes on that picture sort of boot you off Tiger Chat about 15 or so years ago?
That's true but for one season we fielded a reserve side as well. We played a friendly against a club at Frome. Twelve of us travelled. This was when you only had one substitute. The home side only had 10 players so we suggested that our substitute - called Andy - should play for them as it would be good for everybody. Andy, being a proud City fan, didn't like the idea but as kick-off approached he thought it was best to agree to it. At the end of the match and as we were all leaving the pitch I realised that Andy hadn't touched the ball once so I said to him: "See, it didn't really make any difference which side you were on!".
In my opinion, City have been been held back in the past by football fans supporting other (more successful) clubs. Support = cash = higher chance of success. Of course there are many reasons for this. I genuinely think that football would be better all round if people supported their hometown/family connection team. I often wonder, if we’d never had RL in this city, would we be a similar size now to a Sunderland or Newcastle? Or would it have changed little in terms of the size of the club?
I totally agree. I think if we never had rugby league in the City we could have been a bigger club a lot quicker.
Another question, would be, in that case, could Hull have supported another professional football club? Of course, that seems a ridiculous proposition as we (current position excluded) haven't prospered in the main with just one club. But without RL, how could things have been different if the divide in the city between east and west came historically through association football? Would we be a hotbed like Liverpool or like a Bratfud with their City and P.A. (although of course Bradford have Bradford Northern or whatever **** name they’re called these days). Any of the football or local historians on here know if a serious East Hull team was ever mooted?
I went to college at Riley on anlaby road. I remember getting the bus back to the city centre when the KC was being built and I said to a friend "wow, look at cities new ground, it looks amazing!" With that this chavvy toothless, tracky wearing female thing shouted at me "it's not city's ground, it's FC's!" **** me! She scared the **** out of me! There are some rough folk in hull. I'll head back to gilberdyke quietly....
Why so many people from Hull support clubs from elsewhere is a mystery. You certainly don't see it as much in other cities. Neither do get so many in other cities actively wishing the local team fail. Something else different is people,supporting the local rugby team but a football team from elsewhere. You don't see cars in Leeds with a sticker for the local rugby team alongside one for some football team from elsewhere. Whether having rugby league would ha e made any difference is hard to say. Leeds had a rugby club long before a football team? The Leeds rugby club has had more success than the 2 Hull clubs out together and gets larger crowds than either of the Hull clubs but you never hear anyone from Leeds claiming it is a rugby city like they do in Hull.
Let us hope that this time in the Premier League that so-called fans like the lot in this picture stay away. http://www.liverpoolsite.com/stevie_mobbed_by_hull_fans-liverpool_fc_photos-igfpo-1465137.htm A total embarrassment and anyone on that picture should hang their head in shame.
No but it was mooted for City to play some 'exhibition' type games in east Hull right back in the early days pre WW1. There was even talk a few year later of the RL clubs merging, so that there would always be one team with the City to itself each Saturday and not the opposite where City always had to share the gate with rugby.
Hull wasn't big enough to sustain 2 football clubs long term. We would have been the smallest city with 2 clubs.
Hull folk have got used to a live game in their city every weekend, and of a different code. It suits the spectators but does not benefit the clubs' progress. I had relatives who went to watch all 3 clubs before and after the war, 'supported' all of them as did many of their workmates. There was no inter code rivalry whatsoever.
No, that was Andy Medcalf who did that. When City were in liquidation I recommended that the fans should get together and form a company and try to save the club. One person started spreading lies saying that I was asking people to send me money. I asked the person to either justify their comments or admit it wasn't true but he ignored me. I then took action to stop him spreading lies about me which was successful. Andy Medcalf said this person had complained about me taking action and despite this person not being able to justify his comments and me and Andy Medcalf reaching agreement very soon Andy Medcalf reneged on the deal and kicked me off. Both before and after this incident I had been contacted by people who told me that this person had been threatening them if they disagreed with him. I think TigerChat has withered and died due to a small clique of "poodles" - my term. TWO people posted today on the day that Charlie Austin failed his medical. That says it all.
I have to say, that in my experience, most places with **** football teams seem to suffer the same (contempt/apathy from their local population). However, the attitude of certain RL fans towards their home town team may well be something different in this city. I don’t really have a RL frame of reference/experience to compare it to. I’m supposing that the oft RL hatred of football in this city has its origins in history and has been passed down generation to degeneration; although admittedly, I’m not particularly knowledgeable about City’s or RL’s origins. That said, I would also think (again nothing to back this with) that the need/desire to support football teams with no connection to you would have been something that came to prominence post war, circa 50s, Busby’s babes and all that?
You do get people travelling from all over the country to Old Trafford to watch Manchester United and nearly all of them had not been born in Manchester or anywhere near. A lot of people travel from London and elsewhere to support their teams but usually they have been born near their club. Is supporting Leeds and being born in Hull prevalent? I've never met anybody like that although I knew a Manchester United fan who was born in Hull.
Interesting. Was there a venue for the proposed East Hull games? Obviously, I’d guess at Craven Park if so and what shelved these plans? Was the fact City were based west of the river off putting to East Hull fans back then from supporting City? Was these proposed games a way of spreading their sphere of influence into the rugby territory of the east?
Sounds harsh. I just recall their being a lot of antipathy towards you all of a sudden for reasons I couldn`t remember. Did try and look at the digest of TC a few years back but it was dead hard finding it online so I gave up.
I was living in East Hull when I started supporting City. I could hear the crowd at Craven Park from my house and I might go to the odd midweek match at Craven Park but it wasn't like watching City or even City Reserves.
The 1980s when rugby started to do well just as City declined. Hull used to pull 2,000 in the early 70s. They were not even on the local map. We let them get a foothold and it just got worse.
It was the idea to get as much involvement from all over the city as possible. All the men of influence lived Bev Rd and Anlaby Rd back then. Very few directors have been from east Hull. Just the way this city was. Before Anlaby Rd got bombed to **** in the war it had loads of big villas etc (now only one left standing opposite HRI) where the big hitters lived.
