Its for sure i wont be attending as many games if the standard is lower or the same next year, the reason: 1, we are now showing total lack of ambition (this is as far as it goes im afraid)...and where's our youth policy? 2,GT complaining about players agents, i know this is the bane of every manager in all the leagues , but when your own says it, it just looks like an excuse for not being able to get players in because we just don't pay the going rate 3, so where is our attendance money going?....i now suspect RW's pension fund, as now i think he's looking for a return on his investment before retirement. after all GT was brought back in to this club to do "more with less", as its his forte..and i think if we had crowds of 12000 every home game it would only go towards RW's dividends and bonuses 4,too many loan players isn't the way forward...its a big gamble who you get, and a massive cop out, and too many doesn't encourage greater team spirit either. 5, as on my only day off work, i would find it very hard to go and watch the drivel that was served up to me last season by players who don't even belong to this club!! 6, Pre season we have done nothing to look like we are building to go forward,and where's the transparency?, its obvious that GT is building a squad to stave off relegation. 7,some of the players GT as re-signed aren't good enough for this league, i.e. Bradshaw Wildig etc. and never will be 8,I expected some tough talking coming out of the new meadow this up and coming season...but we have heard nothing from anybody in the higher echelons to convince me we are going forward as a club. KDS, your argument is weak, if this was a fan owned club, i would be right behind what you are saying 100%, but because we are a privately owned one, i have to wonder where my investment (gate money) is going ...and i really cant see it going into team building!!...and this is going to reflect on the crowds this up and coming season no doubt.... my lowest point last season was being dumped out of the cup by Hereford, two things that it showed me, is... 1,you can put a *** paper between the quality of our players and BSP, and 2, we showed no fight nor spirit!!...and for the gate fee we are paying that's not acceptable!!
I agree the management and board are really testing the patience of the supporters. with 4 weeks to go we shall be left with the left overs at the *** end of summer. roland won't spend and gt waits. do we deserve our place in L1?
Although I have renewed my season ticket and am being made redundant in a few weeks (thankfully secured some maternity cover to keep me in work until June next year!) I can appreciate that the dour performances last season coupled with a lack of movement into the club in recent weeks might put people off committing to purchasing a season ticket, that does not mean that they will not attend any games and if in the process they attend more than 15 home games then the club are actually making a profit!
Tinned hats banging the same old drum. Always the same old conspiracy theory. Are you sure you don't work for the CIA? Try examining the club's accounts for a change or are you too tight fisted to obtain them from Companies House.
Interested by the criticisms of our youth policy. Firstly, I think it's at least as good as most at this level - the likes of Bradshaw, Taylor, Woods and Goldson are all products of our set up, not to mention the talented duo of Dom Smith and Callum Burton in the reserves. We also don't have a good atmosphere for young players - think how much stick Bradshaw and Wildig get despite being young and, although not ready for this level yet, talented enough to make it with us. Hell, people were even getting on Taylor's back at times last season.
Woods got some good cheers in his cameo performances....long may it continue! Be they good, bad or just journeymen give them support...it can only help the club....the boo boys never help youngsters at this level. Save your opprobrium for those that deserve it. How much will the chairman take out of the club compared with a first or second year pro? Well said Lenny! ...and did you ever find your co-supporter in Ford Heath?
It's not just was young players getting grief, weale got it at the start of the season and Jones and Richards got plenty at times over the season.
Totally agree, Lenny. We finished last season with a starting eleven containing only 4 seasoned professionals, taking 7 points out of nine in the process. Admittedly some of the younger element were loanees but it shows what can be done with Turner placing his faith in youth. Of the loanees, I would have loved Mambo to have returned but it seems the attractions of the South East were too much to drag him away. Hopefully we can get Cameron Gayle on a season long loan. He was improving all the time and covers the problem right back slot.
I think we are all going in the same direction here.....whatever we have, however lightweight and uncharismatic, let's get behind it! Your point about Richards is well made, he got most stick when played out of position....and that's not his fault.
I haven't as of yet, it is a strangely large place for a hamlet! I do get so frustrated by the negativity that comes from some elements of our support. I was fuming after the Richards penalty abuse & booing last year and it was the only time I've properly lost my cool with anyone (annoying, gobby, negative man a row or two behind me) at a game. I'm a very relaxed person and tend to think I can accept people's views and decisions (although I'll happily debate if they differ from mine!) but what cretin pays money to pour abuse on someone like Matt Richards for something as mundane as taking a penalty in a game we were 2-0 up in? Anyway, I'm getting worked up about it again just thinking about it! However, the key thing is to remember that it still is a vocal minority. People like Richards, Weale or Jones are tough enough to shrug it off and prove people wrong, but Bradshaw and Wildig look a little bit more vulnerable to negativity - although Taylor doesn't (he waved at me the other day, so I can now claim to be in with a Town player). Not sure Tom even shaves yet! I really dislike the tribalism that comes with football and some of the arseholes we get coming along just to "fight" or abuse some poor girl by making insinuations about her sexual technique. However - thankfully - good banter is more prevalent at Town games. One of the funniest moments last season was when Weale played an absolute blinder against Walsall, then in the 90th minute played a goal kick straight into touch and someone yelled "he's ****e, drop him!" from the back and everyone started laughing, Weale included. Anyway, I'm not quite sure where I'm going here, so that seems as good as place as any to stop at.
Reminds me of the Wembley game where someone in front of me continually shouted abuse at Humphreys whenever he touched the ball, what was the point of going?
Well i wont lie,I will have a go at a player(s) if they aren't giving 100% commitment, and i think i have the right to do this, and this goes for the younger players too, after all i pay my entrance fee and expect to be entertained by professionals. but if we are losing 3-0 and every single town player is running their heart out on that pitch, that's fair enough to me, they have give it their all and have been beaten by a better side, i have no qualms there at all, that's why i tend to blame the management and board, most games we lost last year were only by the odd goal, we just needed that little bit of quality which i think would have come at a a lot less of a premium cost wage wise. and yes KDS i do bang the same old drum because its what these boards are all about, discussion and views!!, im not going to put anything on here i don't believe in just to satisfy you...its not a conspiracy theory, its common sense...i see money going into the club through tickets sales and sponsorship, but none going out towards team building...simples ...it ain't rocket science as the old adage goes ....
Well the last published accounts showed a deficit, if you bothered to read them and don't tell me the money disappears into RW's pocket because the accounts would say that. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story, Eh.
oh, how naive you are KDS, what it doesn't tell you for your £4.50 investment into company's house archives is the full facts of how the money is distributed around the company as forms of other investments and payments , and what skim off directors take through percentage share fund bonuses and pensions ....if you are looking at the bottom of their page, it doesn't just say "this amount of money disappears into Rowland's pocket" , although it would be a good idea though i must admit, you should mention that to them .... get real KDS, fair play to RW he has invested a lot of his money into the building of this club and he hasn't done it for the good of man kind...he will be getting his returns at whatever rate he has set himself ( given his elderly years i would expect this to quite high), but the problem is buying in players or paying "the going rate" wages will water that rate down, and he wont want that!...after all it happens in every other "owned club"...why on earth do you recon it wouldn't happen in ours?
Well done you have managed to invest but all you see is a conspiracy. (as I suspected). You also have to take into account that the club are tied to league rules that only a certain percentage of turnover can be paid in salaries. Where I would take issue with the club, is that there does not seem to be enough utilisation of the facilities which would increase this turnover. Colchester with a similar stadium and similar gates appear to use their stadium much more frequently for entertainments.
I would agree that the club could do more to make money from the ground more often. Even down to once a week having a market/car boot -although not the most glamorous of events must bring in cash otherwise others would not do it.
so long as all the money goes in the right places, as KDS has mentioned, there is a capping in place on salaries but this as been got around by other methods in bonus payments to other company's under the Chairman and directors ownership, remember up to 09/04/2013 we were known as SHREWSBURY TOWN FOOTBALL CLUB P.L.C. now from that date we are known as Shrewsbury town Ltd, The latest Annual Accounts submitted to Companies House for the year up to 30/06/2012 reported 'cash at bank' of £1,742,716, 'liabilities' worth £1,497,360, 'net worth' of £12,778,465 and 'assets' worth £2,291,332. we are now run by 2 current active members. and 1 company secretary. with 10 shareholders owning the total shares within the company.
The ownership of shares stayed the same when changing from PLC to Ltd. What it means is that anyone wanting to sell shares in the limited company has to offer them to the other shareholders first. They cannot be put on the open market. Don't worry, though, RW is getting fed up with the constant carping and the Russians are coming.
