The second image even in that rough state is a real improvement on that bowl like thing revealed last week.
The second looks a little like Sheffield Wednesday's South Stand but behind the goal. Not a bad thing.
It looks a bit mis-matched, but then again so do the official designs. I'm not a huge fan of either, and Ashton Vale is still my preferred choice.
I quite like it compared to the awful designs last week Agree with Wurzel that it looks a lot like Sheff Wed
So a copy of Hillsborough which is now like Ashton Gate, a very outdated stadium, is alright for some of you. Well, old I may be, but I want an up to date stadium for us whether it is AG or AV and not a copy of something from the Sixties. Modern stadium and it's up to the team and the supporters to create the "atmosphere" not the shape of a roof! Why should those in the corners not have a roof over their heads?
So a copy of Hillsborough which is now like Ashton Gate, a very outdated stadium ... It not a clear rough copy, the gable is similar, and that would have the same facilities as the design revealed by BCFC last week. Its a different face on top. Why should those in the corners not have a roof over their heads? It appears to be the same corner structure as the design revealed by BCFC last week. It's up to the team and the supporters to create the "atmosphere" not the shape of a roo .. . Explain what has happened to the atmosphere at stadiums like Boro, Cardiff, Coventry, Derby ... City fans have occasionally created good atmospheres at these stadiums when there has been that rare essence of winning team playing at the top of its game. The match last season at Cardiff Dragons attracted the biggest turn out of 18 - 35's for what must have been ten years, but still had an atmosphere from the off that would have been looked upon years back as poor for a severnside Derby. The design of that stadium did affect the atmosphere. It was poor enough to shock many. Lego land stadium - Lego land support. Creating a stand for vocal support is far more likely to avoid the malaise affecting stadium after stadium. Building something fans call for, want and will use could also be great.
Think the second design is miles better than the bowl design revealed by City. Clearly fits in with what a lot of fans feel should be done. I could also say with some certainty that many of the current eastenders I know would use that. Simply cannot say that about the club's design.
Sorry not impressed with either the club plans or these plans if indeed plans they are, If we are going to have to stay at AG for the forseeable future I would have expected something better this looks like it is an emergency stopgap measure thrown together in a hurry, I would have prefered something like the Brighton and Hove stadium.
Building an American express stadium is not possible due to space but the ends are also dreadful. Rake of away end was flat as EE but it felt like being sat in the ground. The ground is sunk down. Bit of weird one as all the sound is on one side and others are silent.
All you do is make both ends the same as the end where the sound comes from at the Amex stadium and put the away fans in an enclosure in front of where the Williams stand is now but down towards the Wedlock. that way both ends are raked and the noise can hit the pitch from both ends, Move the family enclosure across to in front of the Dolman stand problems solved.
The side stand is where the sound comes from at the American express stadium. There would not be space at either end and we would not have the fans to go close to filling a stadium that big mate.
The stand to the right of the the away end at Brighton is very much like the Williams design. Generic design - boxes. Same as anywhere except the curved roof. The away end minus pillars has a poor view, poor atmosphere. It's not very good. New Eastend/Wedlock you would think now minus boxes would be an opportunity to create a stand fir vocal fans. The home end at Brighton appears to be a family stand, if it isn't the fans in it are incredibly quiet.
A lot of fans are fond of the "good old days", so they'll always prefer a classic look to the stadium, because it's what they remember. Honestly, I'm quite fond of the new-style stadiums, and I even like the bowl stadiums because the size of them makes them intimidating structures. I like the Ashton Vale design because it looks both modern and basic. It's no Wembley, but it does the job. If we do get the land I'd love to see Lansdown revise the stadium to make use of all the land, and possibly to throw in an arena to make some cash on the side.
There's a post on otib that uses trust surveys to highlight how many City fans do not like bowls. It actually mullers the argument against a bowl like end. Amount of fans supporting enhanced acoustics for vocal support stand to stand is high to massive. We now get to visit bowl after bowel where the atmosphere is dreadful. It even affects away attendances knocking them down v a ground like Charlton, which will pull a few more because the away end oozes atmosphere.
But yet again that is a vocal minority same as on here the vast majority of fans of all clubs do not go on sites/forums/chatrooms etc most of them seem to be more interested in having somewhere comfortable to sit whilst cheering their team on, this is partly because the average ageof people attending football matches outside of the Premiership(The TV Generation) is rising all the time and you have to cater for them as well as the younger noisy element in the crowds as well the advantage of a bowl or complete stadium as opposed to one with just 4 stands is simple (A) You can get more people into the same footprint area with a bowl as you do not lose the four corners (B) It is easier to roof a bowl stadium which in itself would have a couple of benefits firstly the comfort of spectators you wouldn't get soaked at a game secondly you could hold Boxing matches Pop concerts etc at any time of the year without worrying about the weather this is something that the clud could and should have thought about for the Ashton Vale site before.
Exactly why the ST ran a survey pre Ashton Vale . Results was as pointed out on here that fans of Citu do not want a bowl. The majority of all fans warning a area for that vocal minority was 70% + and higher. The majority amongst that vocal minority if that makes sense 80 %+. Lot of these bowls fans are barely cheering the team on they are sat till a goal then in comes the goal music and it back to being quiet. Boro, Cardiff, Derby its dead and anybody saying different been to those grounds. Cardiff support now is bigger but pathetic noise wise. There are four stands, there will be thousands upon thousands of seats with that comfortable seat thing going on. The average age is rising also because football is also a bit **** atmosphere wise. Have a look in the Eastend, all sorts of ages going in in there v the old Williams, older dolman, Atyeo is the family stand. The wedlock thing the club have revealed doesn't cater for them as it doesn't recognise why they have gone in the area of the EE they have. B/ ??? Your more likely to get wet in bowl as the design is more open. Arena you may mean? Never on the cards and new roundabouts and bridge are to be built at Temple Meades costing twenty million, now funded and will be the accsess for the arena there.
