The players attitude plays a part. Nigel only wants team players. Nigel has never fell out with someone who gives their all for the club and does the job. Matt Mills, DJ Campbell, Jermaine Beckford, Joe Mattock etc. Was more bothered about themselves then the club. If we had a team full of player with Beckford approach the everything do you really think we would get anywhere? As I said before, I would much rather people like Martyn Waghorn and Jamie Vardy to people like DJ Campbell and Jermaine Beckford They might have less ability but they give everything they have and they actually care what happens
Futacs, Whitbread, Vardy etc. are happy enough to sit on the bench (at best). Depends if you think of this as a good mentality.
Think you've missed the point of my post - Gangsta posed the question as to why Beckford wasn't willing to take a pay cut with us at the start of last season ... I gave my view on that - which is that he had already fallen out with the manager here and, from his perspective, is now being managed a lot differently so is willing to make such concessions... In terms of your point about players being more bothered about themselves than the club - sorry to say that I would include every one of ours (and every other team for that matter) in that category - it's just the degree to which ... .. and finally, we will never get anywhere if our ethos is to simply rank work rate over ability ... I'm not bothered about us having players that I don't much like as people if they bring success on the pitch ... personally, I'm not prepared to part with my hard earned cash to watch a load of mediocre nice guys ... I could go down the local park for that ... just saying like.
... possibly, but talent can still take the piss and win ... and can decide to turn up at any point in the game if it has a mind to. Hard works' options are far more limited - keep on working and hope against hope that talent doesn't appear. Plato
All I demand from my team is they give everything they have. If they give everything and still come up short I will applaud them off the pitch If they turn up half arsed (Beckford) and come up short which they will do in the long run. That I can't accept
The difference with this season to any other is that we dont need to go out and buy a team. We already have a team that is capable of achieving play offs. We already have a team with match winners and 2 strikers capable of scoring 15+ goals At the back we have the best keeper and centre half in the league last season, its not like last season or the year before where we have had to try and mould a team together. Aslong as we can shift the deadwood soon I think we will do well in the transfer market. We all the sponsorship the owners have brought in from Thailand our income has to be amongst the most in the divison allowing us to spend more then other teams.
Wigan are signing Grant Holt from Norwich. Top signing for them They also signed Marc Anton Fortune from West Brom They team is very good but I think they will still lack the cutting edge
What a crock of ****. What you need is talented players, with a desire to achieve success and a manager who doesn't piss them off. Good luck.
Players like Matty James, Ritchie De Laet, Anthony Knockaert, Wes Morgan, Chris Wood ETC Not players like Jermaine Beckford, Matt Mills, DJ Campbell etc. There is more to being a good footballer then having ability. If you compare our teams individually we have a better team then you. Collectively as proven over the season yours was better. Nigel only wants to right players at the club, and if there not he will ship them out regardless
Berbatov wanders round looking like he couldn't give a ****, while winning games. Mclean runs around like a man possessed, while winning **** all. I know which one I'd rather have up front for us next season. Nigel would probably ship him out for not working hard enough in training. That's why you'll stay in the Championship.
Berbatov is world class on top form. You wont get a world class striker in this league. The closer anyone will come is when we had Yakubu Ok take Jimmy Bullard for example then. A very good midfielder but a complete prat against so Corry Evans. Nowhere near as good as Bullard but he has the right attitude and works hard for the team. Who would you rather then
No you don't. You're right, collectively our team was better than yours, hence our Premier League badge on our sleeve, but on what basis could you say that every individual in your team was better than ours? I think opinion will differ massively, but here goes anyway: Stockdale vs Schmeichel- You've had him on loan so you know how he plays, but he was solid, just as good as Kasper in my opinion. However, I think I know who I'd rather have - LCFC Elmohammady vs De Laet - You won't find a better crosser of the ball than our Elmo. His pace and trickery were too much for most full backs and is miles better than De Laet. HCAFC Chester vs Morgan- Bit of a pointless comparison really, you claimed Wes Morgan is the best Championship CB. Well, he is now that Chester has gone. He didn't stand out as much this season, but our Chezza was head and shoulders above most players in our team, never mind the rest of the league. It came as no surprise that Villa and Newcastle were linked with a move. No contest here, HCAFC Faye Vs Whitbread - I won't lie to you, I was a bit surprised when we went in for Mr Faye. However, I was stunned to see just how good he was. Even at 34, he was steady, reliable and never looked troubled. Although he nearly cost us promotion with a rash handball on the last day, he was for a period of time our joint top scorer in the league and his threat from set pieces should never be underestimated. Yeah, Whitbread is a decent enough player but offers nothing anywhere close to what Faye does. - HCAFC Hobbs vs Keane - Drawn on this one. I actually think he had a good season, but many got fed up with his lack of pace and injury meant he had a slow start to the season. I think I'd go for Michael Keane here. - LCFC Robbie Brady v Paul Konchesky - The two players are very different and Konch probably has the experience in the position, but since returning to the club permanently, Brady has been nothing short of a revelation. He can play at LB, LWB, LM, LAM, CM or as an out and out striker. He's already broke into Ireland's national team and has a left peg that puts most in the Championship to shame (maybe not Whittingham, who for me is still the best winger at that level). No contest - HCAFC Quinn vs James - Two very skillful players who work hard and create chances. James has the potential to be a PL midfielder but I don't think he's that good in the tackle. Sadly, the same could be said of Quinny. I'd have to say DRAW. Meyler vs Drinkwater - Again, two solid midfielders who work hard. Neither are glamorous in their playing style but I'd have to plump for Meyler because of his goalscoring ability. A box to box midfielder is essential in a 3-5-2 and his ability to arrive at the right time in the box was invaluable. - HCAFC Koren vs King - Well, a real contest of talent. Both very similar players, both internationals for their country and both capable of winning games. King drives forward and when he plays well, so do the rest of the team. He can't half strike a ball, something which our Robbie is known for (as you found out last season) and can pop up with one of those 25 yard beauties that we don't really see enough of. However, as good as Koren is, there's a reason SB was seriously thinking about King; Koren, for all his ability, just tends to go missing in games. He could win you a game on the 90 having done 89 mins of bugger all. I like to see players putting a shift in, so I'll go for King here - LCFC Gedo vs Nugent - Well, Nugent has goals in him, there's no denying it, but so does Gedo and he had an unfortunate season here. He's a natural finisher, there's no doubt about it, but a lingering foot injury meant he slowly went off the boil, eventually missing the end of the season. Had he stayed fit, I'm sure he would have contributed more. Nugent is an all round good player; perhaps he lacks a bit of pace, but his aerial threat is also decent enough. In that respect, the tie goes to LCFC Aluko vs Knockaert - Knockaert came in from nowhere a and I think everybody knew that he was going to be a cracking Championship player. However, the warning signs were there that if he wasn't always on song,LCFC might end up falling short. Sure enough, that's exactly what happened. Aluko didn't look like stopping. There wasn't a Championship defender out there who looked at the team sheet and said "oh great, we've got to keep Sone Aluko quiet." without sounding sarcastic. He was a great finisher two and his partnership with Jay Simpson was glorious to watch while on form. It was unfortunate for him to miss half a season, but comparing the two, I'd go for Aluko all day long - HCAFC So, in my opinion, 7-5 to the Tigers (1 point each for a tie). I can see what you mean about having a great team spirit; the last time we went up we didn't have the most talented team, but we rallied and made the impossible a reality. It didn't strike me that Leicester didn't have any team spirit, but it isn't fair to say you have a better team than us because I honestly don't think you did.
deluded as **** mate Schmeichel is 10 times the keeper Stockdale is Wes Morgan voted best defender in the league. Yes that includes James Chester Zak ****bread doesnt get any games so to include him is laughable Aluko over Knockaert you must be on drugs. Aluko spent more time on the treatment table and even when fit I would take Knockaert Quinn over James If you want to compare teams at least use the players that played the majority of the season Schmeichel- Best keeper in the league. Case closed De Laet <Elmohammady. Yours just shades it Morgan- best defender in the league case closed Keane= Hobbs. For Keane better all round game but Hobbs is a better defender at the moment Konchesky<Brady Knockaert> Quinn King> Koren Drinkwater<Meyler. Meyler shades it as was better over the season as a whole. Matty James didnt play enough to be included Dyer=Boyd. Dyer too inconsistent. Boyd pretty **** Nugent>Simpson Wood>Gedo
Stockdale vs Schmeichel- Recognised in the Team of the Year, regardless of our opinions the football league have chosen Kasper. Elmohammady vs De Laet - I'd agree with you for attack mindedness, De Laet is far from a bad player, and maybe even a better defender, but think Elmo has offered more going forward. Chester vs Morgan- Again, you can't really argue with the unbiased views that put Morgan in Team of the Year. Chester unfortunately would have suffered as you played 3 at the back, Morgan was our best defender 99% of the time, end of the day, you had 3 central defenders who let in 52, we had 2 central defenders (and 1 was always Morgan) who let in 48. Faye Vs Whitbread - This is an obvious one, but you we don't play 3 at the back, so he was rarely used. Hobbs vs Keane - Drawn on this one. If we don't get Keane back again on loan this year, i would be just as happy to have Hobbs back. Defensive Robbie Brady v Paul Konchesky - not much difference in their defending. Attacking Robbie Brady v Lloyd Dyer - not alot of difference, Dyer quicker, Brady prob has a better delivery. Robbie Brady is prob better overall, but as you play a diff formation, he has to pull double duty. Quinn vs James - Quinn had a better season. Meyler vs Drinkwater - As above, James and DD suffered as they were sharing 1 position, DD started better, then James finished better. Koren vs King - Draw, they may as well be the same player, although i would prefer Koren in all honesty, yet King has youth on his side. Gedo vs Nugent - He will win you corners and attacking throw ins out of nothing, he is a natural team player. Aluko vs Knockaert - Over the season, Knockaert has made a bigger impact. I have an 8-8 draw
I'm not arguing for the sake of it, I'm just saying you need players with ability to achieve anything, just being committed isn't enough if you're not good enough. Aaron Mclean or Jamie Vardy being ideal examples.
