I understand how you're feeling Fez. I'm starting to wonder exactly who (or what) some of the posters are on here after that thread. Sick doesn't really sum it up and the lack of action by the mods was disturbing to say the least.
Here's my take on this whole subject and it will be my only post relating to it. The bad taste joke thread was a mistake and should have been closed very early on. The content wasn't funny and in all honesty was embarrassing. The mods do a decent job on the whole and in hindsight might have dealt with this one differently but they don't monitor every thread and can't please everyone that posts on here. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think it's safe to say that lessons have been learned and it's time to move on and put this unsavoury episode behind us.
That's absolutely wrong. Read the so-called jokes above; I never chose to be offended by them, it was a result of my upbringing and I am very grateful for that. The fact that you find them harmless is something for you to consider, but don't patronize me. Your broadbrush moderation is a disgrace. By your own rules politics and racism is out, but gutter race jokes (which are a cowards way of being racist) and the trash above are acceptable to you - what?? Try showing them to your family and explain that you are fine with them. This sort of stuff is corrosive and will return with more force and will be harder to moderate - we have one of the clowns on here stirring it tonight. Take your head out of the sand and see it for what it is, vile anti-social comment with no semblance of humour - unless you believe their spin.
I don't make rules. I don't see moderation as being a role of censorship and telling people off. It's like that on some forums but on here we're really more just like maintenance. We just stick to the rules which were originally set out, before two of us were even mods.
They did monitor that one, they also posted on it. I agree it would be best to move on, but when you have one mod laying the law down in hidden PMs and making gratuitous/provocative posts about disabled distress (I don't know what else to call it or what other purpose it could have), whilst another offers unacceptable explanation that we are expected to go along with, letting it lie is not only difficult, it's morally direlect. It's the mods who should stop their posts as they are unacceptable.
Agree, It can be hard to monitor all threads But this one was! PLT posted on it first page and saw the content and let it run? DMD saw the thread, Closed it, had a read was fine with what he had seen and reopened it for it to carry on? Then closed it. DMD never did get back to me regarding a family member been called a **** kiddie fiddler; when i asked if the person who had said them awful comments had been banned! Has he been banned? Just asking to see what the moral stance is on this, Never mind the legal one. I believe fully, In my opinion, That if i was in more favor with the mods he/she would have been banned!
Listen, mate, I honestly believe you have it all confused; to be a mod is to accept the rules you will enforce, so, effectively,, they are your rules. These rules are quoted by mods past and present frequently.
When a site is moderated, either before content appears or shortly thereafter, the operator of the site assumes responsibility for the material that appears. If inappropriate content is posted on the site, and the moderators have failed to find it and deal with it appropriately, then the operator may become liable for that content. This makes moderating content a relatively high-risk and labour-intensive approach, and as a result many sites choose not to moderate, but to rely on a complaints process. However, it is readily accepted that there is a greater moral imperative to moderate the content of some types of sites – for instance those which are used by children. By moderating the site the operator puts its trust in the individuals who act as moderators, and these moderators must be given clear guidelines on how to fulfill their role.
I agree, it is very funny. I'm glad you think so too. But I'm afraid I can't take credit for it. That joke is older than me.
I believe you are wrong, And that as you posted it in public forum your are responsible for your actions, Please feel free to look it up. And on note; I am not going to carry on and add anything more on the subject. Had a very long day and need to sleep.
I've never seen such a giant turd in all my life as this. And I've been to twycross zoo, and trust me when I say the elephants can do some big ones. If anyone who posted those jokes found the subjects funny in reality, you may have a case. You're not stupid enough to believe that people actually think a real life case of child rape, infant death or racism is actually funny, are you? (With saying that there are some who will enjoy real life racism, brainless ****wits like the EDL for example) Get off your high horse and stop trying to brainwash the world with what YOU think is right or wrong. You will not change my sense of humour no matter how hard you try. I said before I've lost family to cancer but I will laugh at a good cancer joke, cancer in reality is anything but funny to anyone even the most sick and twisted people out there. Colin McRae was almost a hero of mine, but I still laughed at the jokes when he died (rip). Some people can detach the principle from jokes without imagining the real life scenario taking place. You obviously can't. Any of those real life scenarios taking place would quite obviously be tragic (maybe not the piece of toast in Ethiopia one, at least one unfortunate hungry stomach would get some extra food) I agree that this forum was probably not the right place to share these jokes but its happened, and I'm fairly certain it will never happen again. That is about all that can be done about it so what is the point of still banging on about it and just regurgitating the same old thing that's already been posted on here 100 times over the last 2 days?
I was the one who posted it but the way fez put it was as if I invented it. One of us has misunderstood then. Same here, sleep tight sunshine.
Sorry missed it, I think jokes that concern rape,kids,racism will be enough to start with, like someone else said If you can't put your name to it on something like Twitter or Facebook ", then why should you put it on here, maybe it's because you are faceless and nameless on here and can get away with it? Like I said before this is the city part of the football site of not 606 and youngsters should feel safe to come on here, if you want filth etc go somewhere else is what I say. I will not comment on this anymore, I have publicly given my opinion of the mods and nothing I have seen so far makes me change that opinion, more so DMD's attempt only enforces my opinion. Good night.
I can't be arsed to correct the bollocks yet again it was boring the first few times, a better question now is asked of the two or three that keep banging on and reposting the comments they feel are offensive. What do you expect to happen? It's gone, we've all moved on. To me, the lesson you should learn is that trying to tackle it as you have is counter productive and only serves ti highligjt why you should PM a mod and.let it be dealt with discretely instead of carrying it on and on with the same thing. If you're suggesting the comments break rules, then surely, by reposting something you feel causes offence and shouldn't be on the board, you're expecting a.ban or you're a hipocrite. I don't actually want a reply,based on the PM's I'm getting, people are bored and irritated by this now. Move on.
If you only required a reply from Robo, why didn't you PM him? It's a forum, an open floor of debate. Lets put this back to you then, where do YOU draw the line? When in your opinion does humour stop and offence begin? I may in your opinion be full of myself but how arrogant are the misguided fools who think that they have a right to offend without redress. The fact is that you and the posters who put the "jokes" up only felt they could because they could hide behind their usernames. I am no saint but some on here need to wake up and see that this is 2013. My view is actually hardening on this subject. Here is one more question, if you feel that it isn't correct to stand up and complain when you feel something is done or said that offends, what gives you the right to complain when someone else does?
I donât believe I have ever read such a strange and self-contradictory post as this one. Let me explain: You say âYou're not stupid enough to believe that people actually think a real life case of child rape, infant death or racism is actually funny, are you? (With saying that there are some who will enjoy real life racism, brainless ****wits like the EDL for example)â My answer is that I agree with your second part where you correct your first view and say there are ****wits who will find it funny. So where does that leave your argument? Pretty damn baseless I would say and pandering to the ****wits you so aptly describe. No high horse here, just an awareness that a minority are being supported to dictate the depths to which this board is allowed to stoop. I find that unacceptable and I donât easily roll over in such matters. I donât recall me having an issue with the cancer joke, I find it distasteful, but it is not something in the same category as baby rape and extreme racism. Using the cloak of familiarity with the victims of the âjokesâ is crass and cowardly. The real life scenarios that you joke about are exactly that, real life scenarios; they happen throughout the civilised world and there are real victims. Today there is a headline of increased child sex abuse through the internet (streaming); perhaps CEOP would find your jokes funny and supportive, or they might see them as trivialising a grave situation. Which camp are your feet in? Please, give it serious thought, it could be your child next. You are still only at the 'probably' stage about where to post them, but comfortable that they are acceptable; fairly certain could be taken as the next skin-full will decide and why not, as it is allowed on NOT606 Hull City. That is why it is worth continuing so that there can be no doubt that this board does not accept it â we have yet to have that clear and absolute assertion by a mod or the site owner. I do not bang off about it where it is clearly accepted. I also respond to posters who wish to state their point (such as you). From your response to Chien: I donât believe you invented it, just as I do not believe the black shirts wrote Hitlerâs doctrine or *****phile rings are a true collective of organised minds, they have an originator, but it is the followers and repeaters that give it impetus; I for one am prepared to take the abuse I am receiving on here (open forum and PM) to stand in the way of that impetus.
DMD, I refer you to my response to The Bullshit Man. What I expect to happen is that this boardâs caretakers or owner give an unequivocal statement that racism and child sex trivialisation, such as this, is not acceptable in any way and nor is its on-going justification, which is what my repeated posts have tackled. My reposting of the offending âjokesâ was necessary to keep their severity in focus and because a number of those defending them have stated that they could not be arsed to read them (sic)! If, instead of locking the thread because you didnât like the complaints, you had deleted it, then my method would have been different; but you have left them in the public domain. Why would I receive a ban when you have already set a very clear precedent of not banning or deleting? Do you really understand what you are doing here, as it seems to me that it is you who is struggling for justification and trying to misdirect the cause of the problem? This is a football board that encourages all age groups to join in, get it sorted and I will move on.[/B]
Given the sites early days are lived out in general Chat and the site owner posts there, I doubt the site owner would give you any such assurance, nor would you get confirmation that it's a football board. It's a board used by football supporters, there's a big difference. What you can have from us is the self and same assurance that's always applied. If we are made aware of an issue, we'll resolve it in a way that's appropriate. What's slightly different on this occasion is a few posters regurgatating an issue looking for black and whites in grey areas. Before anyway screams cop out, one persons racism isn't another persons (as I mentioned before, I know Egyptians and Turks offended at any association with the Fez) so clearly context is an issue. If it wasn't, then reposting something that you yourself clearly see as offensive is no better than the ones in the thread that got closed. If you have an issue, PM a mod. Repeating the same thing ad naseum is achieving nothing but a continuation of the offense you claim to want us to resolve. Nothing's changed on the board and it remains among the most popular on this network and out of the City boards, so if that's not good enough for you, the solution would seem to be for you to find another board more suited to your needs.
