"He didn't win any with us but thats not what im getting at. He left a club where he played everyweek scored lots of goals, and for what? A PL medal he barely deserves. Fair play Michael though managing to get another contract, just keep topping up those debt levels! " ERR he left you're shower for Real, not us, was a fish out of water and then played for the Toon. We got him for FREE and is on a rolling contract, how does that contribute to debt? He has applied himself in his United tenure and scored some important goals. Ask him where he'd rather be OT or Anfield? Admittingly he'e not the solution to United's bigger picture, but he is well worth have on the books. .... even if the EVERTONIAN is just here to bug your lot, because admit it, it must grind the hell out you lot seeing your once golden boy playing in a Unite shirt?
Since he has left Liverpool i doubt whether hes played 100games? I no he went to Real and then Newcastle but lets be honest he didnt get much game time at either whether it was due to injury,form or just not being played, what im trying to say is if he had stayed at Liverpool he MAY have had a better career than to date. Have you not heard about him apparently crying when he found out we didnt want him back after Newcastle? after he left the toon Liverpool were his 1st choice and going to UTD meant he wouldnt have been playing for somebody like Hull. And no it doesn't bother me because he got washed up a long time ago!
...and the more times you think that the more you believe it! Owen cried 'cos Liverpool didn't want him back? and you know this to be true how? Like I said he's not integarl to United's bigger plans, but is worth having around. And yes it does grate you cheese!
SAF knows that Hernadez and Rooney will be first choice next season and that the other strikers will need to make an impact coming off the bench. Michael Owen is a better player coming off the bench than Berbatov so I suspect that is why he was given a new contract.
i dont think micheal owen is better than berbatov in any way to be honest.berbatov got the winner against bolton.owen has been used as a sub 10 times this season,think he got that one goal against blackpool when we had won the title.
Well its not certain Berbatov is leaving as the link from Swarbs said, but honestly what has owen done wrong? He's a quality player who was not given enough of a chance last season. I remember reading that he played 300 minutes (not exact and unconfirmed) and scored 5 goals. thats not horrific. If berbatov leaves then the goals will be replaced by Rooney (who hopefully wont repeat his start to the year) and Hernandez (who will play more in the first half of the year and have a year of experience in england). That doesn't leave Owen and Welbeck with many goals to make up. The are well capible of 10 goals between them. Owen is a good player to have around IMO.
Personally I think Owen is worth another year and I also believe that Hernandez might well have a good few quiet games next season. He's young, he took the PL and CL by storm and now there will be coaches, managers and defenders finding ways of being better prepared to stop him. There is no guarantee he'll reproduce last season form. Owen is his perfect replacement. I agree with the fella above who says he's better off the bench than Berbatov. I think Berbatov rarely makes any shred off difference coming off the bench, got no stats to back that up but memeory tells me he plays and scores better as a starter. I'd keep them both but Berbatov still has a value and we clearly will need some cash so it might be him that leaves. He might not yet either.
Shocked stunned and angry Owen is staying, swarbs I have seen that article but it means nothing. Ferguson wants Berbs to leave and that leaves us with Owen, Rooney and Hernandez and Welbeck. Terrible comes to mind
i dont see why we should sell a successful striker to make up cash when the likes of carrick and gibson are on our books.
People keep talking about this midfield- yes it is bad but I can't see any real improvements Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverly, Gibson Can you please explain where another will fit in?
There is no real leader in midfield at the moment, someone who can take games by the scruff of the neck and give other players a kick up the backside. I would love to see someone like De Rossi sign in the summer although that is probably unlikely.
What do I need to explain? Okay I will start Have you actually watched Hernandez without some form of tinted glasses on? His overall game is very bad, his touch is average, he can't dribble or hold up the ball and as you sore against Barca and Arsenal, playing him against a team who hold the ball is like having 10 men. He needs to improve a lot and I would keep Berbatov as number 2. Owen- that guy has been past it for years and he has contributed zilch this season and offers nothing. We have a similar player in Hernandez, poacher with good movement. Only difference is Hernandez is not a cripple and has pace. ? Do you actually expect Rooney and Hernandez to score 30 goals each? Berbatov gives us another dimension wherehe can hold up the ball and has great unique skill and a great overall game. If Berba is sold we need to buy a world class striker
People talk about Berbatov's great season but remember that he may have scored 22 goals but 5 of them came against Blackburn and he had hat tricks against Liverpool and Birmingham. He has played 42 games and only scored in 12 of them. Owen has been criminally underused which combined with injuries has been the reason for his low return
Berbatov is not all about goals, Owen is. Owen is always injured when we need him and he is finished at the top level. If you guys can't see how weakened we will be. Don't get upset when we have an unsuccessful season.
Sorry i forgot you were in the Hernandez haters club. Your earlier post makes more sense now. It was Hernandez's first year of high level football don't you forget and he did fantastic. He passing will improve a bit in time. He will never be David Beckham, but he doesn't need to be. He is a poacher and yes i believe he can score 20 goals a season if he plays more in the first half of the year. Owen has looked bright when he has played and the finish at blackpool is an example of what he can still do. He is slower than Javier, but has better overall play through experience. Despite his injury problems he is far from a "cripple" He has contributed little because he hasn't played much. Berbatov hardly scored in the second half of the year. With him game time is an excuse but for Owen it is not? Not 30 goals each no, but they dont need to. This year Rooney scored 11 and Hernandez 13. 11 is well below rooneys best and he could score 20-25 if he avoids another horrible start to the year. Hernandez will be better in his second year with a bit more experience and game time without berba and manage 15-20. That would make up 11 - 21 goals. berbatov scored 20. Owen and Welbeck playing more between them can make up the rest if Rooney and Hernandez don't hit their upper limits. As for Berba adding another dimension and great overall game. We played some of our best stuff of the season against the likes of Chelsea with Hernandez in the side so i have no worries about that. Obviously swapping Berbatov for Welbeck is a weaker strike force, But horrible it is not.
So you are happy with us weakening? So our aim for next season is to weaken? You admit to our strike force without Berbs being weaker and your happy? Forget improvements in the midfield. Ferguson wants to keep Gibson and I can see him getting 20-25 games next season. We will have lost VDS, Berbs and Scholes and what is our plan? Throw some youngsters at it, are you really happy with this? Also Nani could leave and what does that mean? The top scorer and most creative player in the league both leave. And your happy? Surly we should be improving not weakening? no or is it just me who watched how Barca tore us to pieces and made us look like a rubbish team. I know we can't beat Barca because they are too good but we could at least improve. City will spend another fortune, Chelsea will buy masses of talents. Probably Neymar and Aguero with Anelka and maybe Drogba leaving and we will weaken.
Well thanks for responding to none of what i posted there except for the last line. Nani is not going to leave Nolhman we've told you enough. We are not weakening most games will have the same front 2 that we had for the second half of this year and i don't think we will lose any goals as i said. We need to sign a midfielder and a goalkeaper to be a better side than last year and i think it will happen. Yes i am happy. Berbatov also says he wants to stay, so this may be irrelivent and i am pleased for MO.
