please log in to view this image Old oak common has been earmarked for a stadium site so it could be us.
Ticks a lot of boxes, there's billions being targeted for the regeneration project and it would be ideal for transport links as well...
Maybe, but I think it's all down to whether they build a cross rail link there, otherwise it's a fair slap to the tube.
Wow! Location-wise this would be right in the middle of the biggest development in the Country. Old Oak Common is set to be the main hub connecting HS2 and cross rail. It will be the busiest, best connected rail station in the Country. 225 mph trains will make central London and Heathrow only 10 minutes away. Check this out: Vast tracts of semi-derelict industrial land, in one of London’s poorest areas, could be transformed with up to 19,000 new homes and 90,000 jobs thanks to the major improvement in accessibility that will be provided by HS2, it was revealed today. The proposed £32billion High Speed rail link between London and Northern England is set to make Old Oak Common Britain’s best connected railway station. Cllr Nicholas Botterill, Hammersmith & Fulham (H&F) Council Leader, in whose borough the new station will be located, says: "HS2 will act as a catalyst to create much-needed new homes, jobs and opportunities in one of London's poorest areas." Comment on the vision (from Friday June 28) The Mayor of London, Transport for London (TfL) and the three local councils are consulting on a Vision to regenerate Old Oak - which the Government has earmarked as the main interchange between High Speed 2 (HS2) and Crossrail. The new HS2 station also provides the opportunity for a new Overground station creating links to jobs all over London. A new generation of trains, running at speeds of up to 225mph, will stop at the new hub station, just north of Wormwood Scrubs, from 2026. Around half of working age adults within 1.2miles of the station site are unemployed. Some parts of the area - which includes a large amount of railway land with train depots, two waste recycling facilities, the Car Giant dealership and other light industrial uses - are in the bottom 1% most deprived nationally. The Government has signalled Old Oak’s vital role in taking pressure off busy central London terminals like Euston, the London terminus of HS2, which could not have coped with the 13,000 extra passengers an hour that HS2 will bring. Five of the nation’s airports will be linked to the high-speed rail network for the first time through the Old Oak interchange. Central London and Heathrow will be just 10 minutes away, Birmingham will be 40 minutes direct from Old Oak and Luton, Gatwick and City Airport will all be within 45 minutes. In addition, if the Government decide to move Heathrow to a new hub to the east of London, there will be a direct connection from Old Oak via the HS1 link in less than 30 minutes. Given the regeneration potential HS2 provides, the Government, Mayor of London, TfL and London Boroughs of H&F, Brent and Ealing have developed a 30 year vision to transform the Old Oak area. The Vision spells out how up to 90,000 jobs and 19,000 new homes - in addition to new schools, open spaces, shops and leisure facilities - could transform the area. “We have heard a lot about how HS2 will bridge the north-south divide and regenerate parts of northern England and the Midlands but it has also the potential to transform rundown inner London neighbourhoods right on our doorstep," says Cllr Nicholas Botterill, H&F Council Leader. Isabel Dedring, Deputy Mayor for Transport, said: “Old Oak Common is a true opportunity area for our capital. It is ideally placed to act as an interchange with Crossrail and other national main lines, relieving pressure on Euston station. A super transport hub in this location would drive significant regeneration in the surrounding area and support the creation of thousands of new jobs and new homes.” A new, ground-level pedestrian link could be opened up through the HS2 and Crossrail station, connecting Wormwood Scrubs to Willesden Junction and providing access so people could walk to East Acton Central Line station and new link roads could be introduced to span the Grand Union Canal which would also improve access through the area. There is potential to improve the local road network by providing bus and cycle lanes, linking existing and new stations to the wider area. There is also potential to improve local connections with new bus services to a new bus interchange at the proposed HS2 and Crossrail station. Michele Dix, TfL’s Managing Director of Planning, said: “The new HS2 station creates a major opportunity to improve the connectivity of west London. We are lobbying the DfT to include proposals for a new Overground station at Old Oak Common and a future Crossrail link to the West Coast Main Line into the HS2 plan. This would significantly increase rail accessibility across London. “This would be complemented by proposals for a new bus interchange at the HS2 and Crossrail station which would help in relieving traffic congestion and improving local connections. In addition, we are working closely with HS2 to provide new walking and cycling facilities to provide sustainable transport options.” The ideas put forward in the new Vision for Old Oak will form part of the authorities’ Local Plan reviews and the Mayor’s London Plan and bring economic benefits to local centres in Harlesden, Acton, Ealing, as well as supporting connections to the White City, Earls Court, Wembley, Brent Cross and Kensal Canalside Opportunity Areas. The ideas will also feed into a future ‘Opportunity Area Planning Framework’ being produced for the area. This framework will be used by the authorities when assessing future planning applications for development in the area.
Well that would be fantastic for the concert and hotel uses the club want as well as higher attendance's from away fans.
Sounds great if true. I'm struggling to place the exact site though. Is it just south of Willesden Junction Station but north of the scrubs and the Grand Union canal between Old Oak Lane to the west and Scrubs Lane to the east?
Cheers mate. Will we still be in W12? Or is it NW10? I'd hate to think of us losing our West London status.
Anywhere relatively close to LR will do. This looks great, but remember Crossrail isn't due to start running until 2018 - thats the official timetable. The first train won't run on HS2 unil 2026, work won't start until 2017 - again officially, but more than possible that these timelines will slip. Surely the HS2 won't be stopping in Willesden anyway (I hope it does, jump on in the West Midlands jump off at The New Loft, no more Western Avenue misery. Especially as I'll be in my mid sixties by then), the intersection with Crossrail should be at the terminus. What we build, if its on this site, will have to exist without these benefits, and in the midst of the construction work, for a pretty long time. No problem, I'd still welcome this, and its still in Hammersmith and Fulham.
Not sure about the postcode but its still in H&F. check the car giant postcode, it will be very similar to that.
so if the new site is going to be around old oak, I'm presuming we're not going to even start building for quite some time - at least until some of the other infrastructure is sorted out. Can we wait 10 years for a move?? Good for the area though -used to live in Harlesden and it really could do with a helping hand.
If you follow Norways link to the full .pdf of the mayors proposals, it says that the area near east acton, shown in the picture, is part of the site that could be developed soonest. The rest of the site would be in stages as land is purchased and developers found. But what it does say is that either an educational, leisure, entertainment venue or sports ground could be a good way to kick start development. So this statement could just be a bit of mayoral/council advertising stating that if someone wanted to build a stadium then planning permission wouldn't be a problem, or it could be cause we or maybe the scum have been in talks about the site, and that things may be in an advances stage? Who knows, but it seems from the document that if we did try for there it could happen quiet easily. But one problem I could see is that while the mayor/council might be favourable to us building a sports/entertainment venue, would they actually let us purchase the land? Personally I would not want us to build anywhere where we didn't own the land, as that means we are stuffed in terms of further developing the stadium or selling it if in the future it no longer suits the clubs needs. Plus we'll be paying rent. When things go bad for a club, the land the club owns is often the only thing that keeps the club going.
If we didnt buy the land, it would be a 100 or 200 year lease on the land, wed still own the stadium and would get all the money from concerts etc. The only problem is when the lease is renewed but I doubt many of us will have to worry about that.
