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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by UIR - Kagawa Powa, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. shwan

    shwan Well-Known Member

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    sure nothing of above is 100% reliable ... did anyone said they are 100% certain ? <doh> but sure bookies analyses facts better than any others sources who just want to fill the pages

    beside reliable source only when things become more offical .. we are here in a rumors sections .. we are dealing with many guessing and inputs and possibilities, to read all that, bookies are better than newspapers, bcz newspapers want just to fill the pages, but bookies focused more on facts ..
     
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  2. shwan

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    playing with Real was his childhood dream .. he had to do it
     
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  3. shwan

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    Bale is worth 55-60m max
     
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  4. Purley

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    "I should get out of Manchester as the circumstances are not right," he said.

    "Nobody stood up for me and my desire is to play in Spain. Will it be Real or Barcelona? It will be one of them."

    Doesn't sound like his childhood team was rm. If it was, he wouldn't even consider going to barcelona
     
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  5. Purley

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    Maybe to you, but not to tottenham.

    You won't get bale for 55-60m...
     
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  6. irdan

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    Mate if I And 10 people bet 500k each on Messi joining Utd they would shorten odds. It's nothing to so with analysing facts.
     
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  7. Purley

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    How would they analyse the facts any better? Do they have itk's in every club?
     
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  8. shwan

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    if news are right and player want to leave .. good luck for Tottenham trying to keep unhappy player by asking more than he worth <ok>


    ironically well you answered yourself in above post !! he had desire to play in Spain that was his childhood dream (ok i was wrong it was not Real only but Real or Barca) .. but whole idea is he thought playing in liga is his childhood dream
    all the bullsh!t he said regarding UTD relationship, well it was due to UTD trying to hold on CR and he end they end up i think having a secret agreement that he stay one season and leave next one

    not sure why you ignored million of interviews he made since expressing his love and respect to UTD, Sir Alex , teammates and fans

    no one knows? it is a multi billion business where pundits had to made right guess or lose big money
     
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  9. Purley

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    Berbatov also wanted to leave, but you still paid £30 for him. Levy won't sell if he doesn't want to, even if the player is unhappy (modric).

    Ronaldo doesn't seem like the most loyal person, he'll go where the money is.

    Do you not understand how betting works? If i put 10k on Ronaldo joining chelsea, the odds will change no matter what.
     
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  10. shwan

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    that is crazy? so they change odds in roulette too if 10 of us placed 500k bet each on one square ?!! sure not..!!! the odds stay the same

    so what you are telling me is for tossing a coin where we know is 50%-50%, if 10 people placed 5m on it landing on tails, then the odds will change massively from 50%-%50 !! i doubt it

    am not a betting expert, but what i know is bookies tend to predict the outcome, then add a profit margin so they increase their chances to win money .. to change it based on what others are betting, will leave a big space for manipulation, ex: if i want to bet for 100m for example, i can start my bet with 1m in an outcome which is not my preferred choice, then possibly many will fellow thinking i know something they don't, then once they change the odds , BAAM i put all my 100m on my favorite bet and increase my money..
     
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  11. shwan

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    you can't compare paying 30m for 60m , beside Berba price should had been around 25m but we paid 31m, Bale actual valuation is round 40-50m but this is why we can go as high as 60m .. 60m is not his evaluation .. 60m is a crazy money

    CR didn't join Real bcz of money

    hhhh and don't repeat things just bcz another members said so ? i replied to him above anyway
     
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  12. Purley

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    I actually said it first in this thread :)

    Why did odds for Moyes slash when a flurry of bets came in for him to join united? Let me guess, the betting companies had there 'people' inside telling them who the new manager was going to be... <laugh>

    Again, it doesn't matter if you think it's crazy money because it's worth that much to tottenham. If you don't pay it PSG/City/RM will.
     
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  13. shwan

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    people are betting more for one option for a reason .. the same reason why Bookies change odds too reacting to same news and info that made more people bet more, do you see odds on roulette changes bcz more people betting on one option?

    regarding spurs, good luck for them keeping unhappy player <ok>
     
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  14. Purley

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    The odds changed massively before there was any hint of ferguson reitiring.

    Harry Redknapp was favourite for the Chelsea job back in 2011... <laugh>. Why do you think this is?
     
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    Shwan strikes again
     
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    What are you talking about Shwan ??

    Irdan is 100% correct.
     
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  17. shwan

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    as i said in my post .. am not a betting expert .. i shared basic informations i know
    if that is the case , then am wrong
     
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  18. irdan

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    Apology accepted.
     
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    You are wrong - you've confused fixed odds betting with betting with uncertain outcomes.

    When you play roulette the odds are fixed - no matter what the wheel should always have the same chance of every number coming up so the casino knows the odds. So the casino fixes to payouts to make sure they make profit over time.

    When you're talking about transfers the odds aren't fixed - no one knows exactly how likely it is that Ronaldo will stay at Madrid or move. So the bookies set their odds based on the money in the market to try and get a profit no matter what.

    If there's £10m bet on CR staying at Madrid and £90m bet on him going to Utd the bookies would set odds of 8/1 on him staying and 1/10 on him leaving. If he stays they pay out £80m on those bets but keep the £90m. If he leaves they keep the £10m on him staying and only have to pay out £9 on him leaving. But if people then start betting on him staying they will move the odds to reduce the amount they would have to pay if he left.

    In general, for a one off occurrence like a transfer, where there's no valid information available, the bookies prices will almost always be set by the market. It's different for matches, where the bookie has some information on form and players to set the odds by.
     
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  20. shwan

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    hhh <ok> when am wrong .. have to admit am wrong .. we learn new things everyday
     
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