Tb hI've never understood that either. If someone says KR or FC, I know they're talking about rugby, so switch off. Hull, City, Mighty Tigers, Hull City etc will always just mean the footy team to me.
As had been explained many times, if you are from this area you know that Hull= Hull FC City= Hull City Rovers= Hull KR Most folk outside East Yorkshire and beyond have never heard of RL so carelessly and ignorantly use 'Hull' to mean City. (Do people say 'Glasgow' when they are talking about Celtic or Rangers ?) It's ignorance for anyone from this area to call us 'Hull'. It betrays an excruciating and embarrassing lack of knowledge. On a vaguely related theme, Hull fans or indeed anyone else who calls them 'FC' is a ****. "I support Football Club" - WTF does that mean? They type of thing a 5 year old would say.
You think people who wouldn't support us if we're called Hull City, will instead support us because we're called Hull Tigers? Seriously? Sorry, your right, it's genius, I'm amazed nobody's thought of it before. What's 109 years of history anyway, it's only a name, lets just change it to The Tigers, then we can pretend we're in London and get even more fans. You can't buy heritage, neither should it ever be disregarded.
Then we can relocate to Castleford and keep the RL confusion going. The point about making money abroad is a bit moot. We signed 3 Egyptian players and you saw the effect that had on the football fans over there and that didn't require a name change. We're one of the most popular teams in Sierra Leone because of our link to Freetown and the African market is only ever going to get bigger (notice how we show the ACON but not the Asian counterpart?). We're known internationally as Hull City AFC; what would be the point in changing our name to boost our income from foreign lands when it would sincerely piss off a good 90% of our current, Hull based fans and jeopardise domestic income that we sorely rely on?
We show ACON because it actually has some half decent teams and a half decent of football, compared to the Asia counterpart which we could see a better standard with the kids down the park playing with jumpers as goals. What's wrong with rebranding to Hull Tigers? I prefer it, it's much smoother and a far more suitable name. I quite like Chazz's white tigers too. I think Hull Tiger Cubs would be by far the best name we could change to thigh and that really would help pull the crowds in Asia "awe cute little tiger cub". Can anyone give me a good reason why rebranding isn't a good idea?
To be fair, billions are spent by advertising and marketing companies on name changes and rebrands, so it must have some effect, despite the 'product' remaining the same. That being said, it doesn't make changing the name right (whether abroad or at home), I just think that it has to be argued on principle.
I think that this is much ado about nothing but on another note for future-proofing this sort of thing in the future I believe that the FA should have to approve all name and kit colour changes with the criteria that it is in line with the tradition and heritage of the club.
When people ask you which football team do you support, this is how it'll go; "So who do you support then?" "Hull Tigers" "Don't you mean Hull City?" "No....no I don't " "Oh. Erm. Right. I have to go, I just remembered, my dog is...still dead. Bye"
No place for me here? And you're the voice of authority on that because of what? I think I'll just ignore your opinions and keep supporting my club.
That's the whole point, Assem thinks we should be called Hull Tigers, not Hull City, this is not some overseas marketing ploy, he thinks it's a better name. As far as I'm aware, Nick Thompson and Ehab have told him it's not a good idea, but he doesn't seem to have given up on it, in his last interview he repeatedly called us Hull Tigers.
Can you give me some examples of sporting clubs who've successfully changed their name to increase revenue, I can't seem to think of any?
Yes, changing their name from Manchester United, to Manchester United was a clever ploy, it all most went unnoticed. But obviously, if they had any sense, they'd be looking to switch it to the Manchester Red Devils.
I don't have any clear examples. NY Red Bulls maybe? Rugby league teams? Do Man Utd exploit the whole "Red Devils" thing more abroad? I think that isn't particularly important to the issue though. We are in a bit of a new era, where clubs (of our size) are starting to realise the value of revenue from abroad - hypothetically, we could be the first success in a new world of sports branding. We aren't changing to the Bluebirds or Red Dragons, we have always been the Tigers, it is more of a shuffle of the name really. That being said, i'm not remotely convinced on a name change. I wouldn't mind it being used abroad if it can increase revenue though.
The first three things on this week's Amber Nectar 'Things We Thing We Think'... 1. Seriously, City, this “Hull Tigers” thing is becoming a major worry now. We are called “Hull City AFC”, a name we’ve grown rather fond of over the past 109 years, and our nickname is the “The Tigers” (note the definite article), which is probably the best nickname in English football. Clumsily fusing them is not wanted and not needed. 2. Yet, the drip drip drip of “Hull Tigers” continues, most recently as part of e-mails from the club imploring us to buy the new away kit in the middle of last week, and owner Assem Allam calling us The Hull Tigers on Radio Humberside. If the man truly cares what fans of the club feel then he hides it pretty well calling the club that, appearing so disconnected from supporter opinion about club identity as to be autistic. Once again, we appear to be being slowly softened up to accept a completely unacceptable rebrand of the club. 3. In March, Nick Thompson complained bitterly (and genuinely) about being City fans being the victim of a fait accompli from West Yorkshire Police. He would do well to recall the grievously unfair nature of that, and how it made him feel, and then resolve not to inflict something similar upon us. He said at a FLAG meeting that only the business side of the club will be Hull City Tigers, but our owner keeps referring to the club without even City in the name. Ultimately Nick Thompson is an employee of the Allams and has to comply with their wishes, but we hope he tells our owner in explicit terms how opposed supporters are to a rebrand, no matter how minor. Some have suggested that ‘Hull City Tigers’ will be easy to market in Asia, but Asia knows us as Hull City, from our previous Premier League exploits and having played a high profile round of games in Beijing in 2009. http://www.ambernectar.org/blog/
Didn't that buffoon David Lloyd often refer to us as Hull Tigers when Dull FC were Hull Sharks? - Allam Snr is as stupid and as ill informed as Lloyd if this continues.
A leading rugby league club here was called the Canterbury- Bankstown Berries up until the eighties. In a league where you had the Panthers,Sharks,Bears, Sea Eagles among others it was not attracting too much sponsorship." Berries" was dropped in favour of the name "Bulldogs" and it has never looked back. There was initial resistance to the change but it soon fell away.
