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Abramovich the pioneer

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by CFC: Champs £launderx17, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member
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    We have a superior record against Madrid and Barca though, how's yours? :)
     
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  2. manutdrule

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    purely, I studied Law at university for three years and got my law degree in June 2012. What did you study?
     
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  3. Chief

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    Well it certainly wasn't English.














    (he's not alone in that though, especially amongst you lot)
     
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  4. Purley

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    I didn't go to uni.

    You studied law? What grade did you get?
     
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  5. manutdrule

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    I got a 2.1 overall mate. So you still studying for your A levels? What subjects are you doing.
     
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  6. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

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    Manu: You're splitting hairs but there is a minimum requirement to go to uni therefore indicating a certain level of intelligence, largely above idiot. If you want to argue the more pedantic points of university acceptance feel free. What I studied (Classics) is largely irrelevant (and potentially irreverant too based upon your own opinion of importance in modern educational standards and requirements). The point of a higher education degree is to prove that you not only have the capability to learn but the desire to seek knowledge and excellence. Something that, based on your previous comments, seemed to have bypassed you whilst going through the learning process. The initial point still remains thought. 3 different winners of the league in 4 years would reflect a reasonably competitive league.
     
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  7. manutdrule

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    Super Chelsea Boys, l stand by my argument that any clown can get into university these days. Being a university student absolutely has no bearing on intelligence. You may have studied a degree like Classics (which is completely worthless in my opinion) but your posts give me the impression that you have the IQ of a chimp. As I mentioned earlier you made a mistake by saying three premiership teams have won the title in three years as it is clearly two. Therefore, you need to accept this instead of throwing a hissy fit like a thirteen-year-old girl. Maybe you should stop watching football and stick to something more akin to your intelligence, such as for instance the twilight movies.
     
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  8. Swarbs

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    No you don't.

    In six ties against Barca, Utd have won three (84, 91 and 08) and lost three (94, 09 and 11).
    In six ties against Barca, Chelsea have won two (05 and 12) and lost four (66, 00, 06 and 09).

    It really is embarrassing how badly you Chelsea fans know your history. No wonder the Liverpool fans mock you <ok>
     
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  9. SpursDisciple

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    Your source may be out of date. Did you not see last year's CL? I know I wake up in a sweat over it.
     
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  10. Swarbs

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    I assume you mean the 2012 CL? I've included that tie as it's one of Chelsea's two solitary knockout wins over Barca.

    But don't worry, despite their inferior record against Barca they will keep telling themselves that they are the only ones who can defeat the mighty Catalans <ok>
     
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    Oh yea <doh>
     
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  12. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

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    Manu: At what point was I throwing a hissy fit? You seem quite content to disregard the higher education system in the UK, that leaves little to your statement of the level of my intelligence. I don't have to prove how smart I am to some muppet in front in of a keyboard. Your belittling actually smacks of insecurity and your desire for oneupmanship about a singular season indicates your own lack of credibility. However just for your own reference, here is a list of people you may have heard of who have studied the same subject as me and their contribution to society. This is a small group but includes some high important people who have contributed a great deal to society, shaping not only the way we think but how we function, the same could not be said of lawyers (which as I'm sure you are aware are widely regarded as vile people);
    1) Sigmund Freud, pioneer in psychoanalysis
    2) W.E.B. DuBois, sociologist and co-founder of NAACP
    3) Jane Addams, social worker,
    founder of Hull House, and recipient of 1931 Nobel Peace Prize
    4) Lynn Sherr, ABC-TV correspondent
    5) Friedrich W. Nietzsche, philosopher
    6) Gerda Lerner, pioneer in teaching women’s history
    7) Nancy Vickers, president of Bryn Mawr College
    8) William Cohen, former U.S. Secretary of Defense
    9) Willa Cather, author
    10) Vince Lombardi, football coach
    11) J.K. Rowling, author of Harry Potter books
    12) Betty Friedan, founder of NOW
    13) Rita Mae Brown, animal enthusiast
    14) James Baker, former U.S. Secretary of State
    15) Jerry Brown, mayor of Oakland, CA, and former governor of California
    16) Chuck Geschke, co-founder of Adobe Systems
    17) Toni Morrison, author and recipient of 1993 Nobel Prize for Literature
    18) Alicia Stallings, prize-winning poet; and
    19) Ted Turner, founder of CNN.
    When was a lawyer last responsible for the development of society, rather than the increase of the size of their pockets as for those who did, nobody knows their names, guess why, because no one cares.
    Now this has no meaning or impact whatsoever on the intial point but the fact is whether you look at the last 2,3,4,10 or 15 seasons, the league is competitive.
    By the way which law firm do you work for?
     
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  13. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

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    Oh and if that previous list with some of it's dubious personnel didn't convince you here is another one. Taken from a Forbes article written in 2009 (I assume you know what Forbes is) about what classics has taught some of the top influencers of recent years has given them.

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/18/power-ambition-glory-leadership-steve-forbes_land.html

    Below is a list of more familiar people with whom you may associate my area of expertees. The fact you know so little about what I studied and how many influential people that you know of and play a large part in your daily life (If you live in London one of the people on this list has a direct impact on your day to day being). You should probably do a bit more reading around and listening before opening up that large lawyer's mouth of yours and spouting the traditional tripe that people of your 'profession' so often do.

    1. Maxine Bahns, American actress, triathlete and model with the Elite agency

    2. Jeffrey Brown, senior correspondent and news anchor for the PBS Newshour

    3. Carol Burrell, cartoonist and the editorial director of the Graphic Universe imprint of Lerner Publishing Group

    4. Stephen Chao, former President of both Fox Television and the USA Network, and co-founder of instructional video website WonderHowTo.com

    5. Kayte Christensen, American sports colour commentator and former professional basketball player with the Phoenix Mercury, Houston Comets and Chicago Sky in the WNBA

    6. Aurélie Filippetti, novelist, politician, and current French Minister of Culture

    7. Francis Fukuyama, best known for his book The End of History and the Last Man (1992)

    8. Porter Goss, former US Congressman and Director of the CIA

    9. Susan Adele Greenfield, Baroness Greenfield, CBE, scientist, writer, broadcaster, member of the British House of Lords, and Chancellor of Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh

    10. Tony Hoare, British computer scientist best known for the development of Quicksort, a well-known sorting algorithm

    11. Boris Johnson, current Mayor of London

    12. Mindy Kaling, American actress, comedian, writer and producer who played Kelly Kapoor on the NBC sitcom The Office

    13. Jim Manzi, former chairman, president and CEO of Lotus Software

    14. Chris Martin, lead vocalist, pianist, rhythm guitarist and founder of the band Coldplay (Everyone knows this, but it's worth mentioning anyway).

    15. Barry Munitz, former CEO of the world&#8217;s wealthiest art institution, the J. Paul Getty Trust

    16. Nick Owen, British television presenter and newsreader, and current chairman of Luton Town Football Club (Classics graduates running a football team? Say it isn't so! We should be watching twighlight!)

    17. Ruth Padel FRSL FZS. British poet, non-fiction author, novelist, and frequent contributor to BBC Radio 3 and 4

    18. TR Reid, reporter on global affairs for The Washington Post, and frequent commentator on NPR

    19. Tim Rice-Oxley, co-founder, principal composer and pianist of piano rock band Keane

    20. Christian Wolff, American composer of experimental classical music

    And lastly a quote from Leah Kronenberg, Undergraduate Director from Rutgers School of Arts & Sciences (SAS).
    "It still has the reputation of being a hard and impressive course of study."

    Read the last paragraph of this introduction.
    http://classics.rutgers.edu/why-classics
     
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  14. AshfordGill

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    I was enjoying reading the debate about Abramovich, being rightly defended by Chelsea fans, and rubbished by supporters of their rivals, which is how it should be! What a shame it got hijacked by a ridiculous debate about further education, personally I left school at 16 with 1 O level, but I have lived a full a happy life, been in continuous employment for 33 years working in retail, banking and now railways. In my experience going to university shows you are good at taking exams, big deal, certainly no guarantee of common sense or real life intelligence.
     
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  15. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

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    Apologies for this. I labored a point that didn't need it because an irrelevant, contentious point was being made about the original debate about whether or not Abramovich's pioneering introduction has made the league more competitive. I will now out gracefully from this one. <ghost>
     
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  16. Blueman

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    This. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  17. District Line

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    Education is a gimmick.

    At School/College you obtain high marks by conforming and having the same opinion as everyone else.
    At University you obtain high marks by having the same opinion as the examiner.

    Pre-Uni my short and long term memory was excellent and it's why I excelled in exams but underperformed in coursework. That's all exams prove, who has the best memory. I didn't even need to revise for my History and RE GCSE exams because I knew the module off the back of my hand and walked out with a high A grade in both. What the **** does that prove?

    Everyone I know that didn't go to uni is in employment, everyone I know that did is still looking. Experience matters more than any degree.
     
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  18. Drogs

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    Actually we beat them 3-1 in 2000. Unless you're talking about over two legs?
     
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  19. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Disagree with RA, you call Suarez a vile human being for what he does in a sports game in 90 minutes but otherwise is a decent man and defend a man who is corrupt has exploited many and has misery and blood all over his money but has pumped millions into a football club, that doesn't make sense and is a massive contradiction, it amounts to blind ignorant tribalism.

    Totally agree on the University bit, I have worked in IT for a long time and some of the best intuitive pragmatic and intelligent people I have worked with have no degrees, they have studied subject matter to supplement the real world experience, and some of the most pretentious political and ultimately useless yes men have spent half their life in education while the former worked all of those years in the real world. The latter often see themselves superior to the former and the former just couldn't give a bollox and get things done in my experience. This is not to say everyone who has been to Uni is that way but it is so often the case in the corporate world and more often than not the case in the higher echelons of power in business and politics
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    Yep, over two legs. Ultimately that's how a head to head record should be measured - no one celebrates if you win one leg and get thrashed in the other, that's just like winning one half of a league match and losing the overall game.
     
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