The Toon Thread of Positivity

I was beside myself with Kinnear's appointment, happily swept along with everyone else in the world about what an abysmal appointment it was/is, furious that this glorious club could be dragged through the mud....again.....for about the umpteenth time in the last 30 years or so (McKeag, Westwood, Waddle, Gazza, Beardo, Relegation, Cole, Ferdy, Ginola, Dalglish, Gullit, SBR, Shepherd/Hall, Allardyce, Ashley, NUFC for sale x 3, Wise, Jimenez, KK, Kinnear, Relegation, Hughton, Sportsdirect.com, Wonga, and finally Kinnear).

But today my attitude has shifted. I think it's the Telegraph's utterly foundation-free article on our very own Graham Carr leaving. It smacks of sensationalism, something I am used to as a NUFC fan, the media deciding now's a good time to put the boot in, whilst smugly adding the line "the fans deserve better". What we actually "deserve" is for journalists to actually do something for us, to find out the real why's of Kinnear's appointment. To look at Llambias and instead of jumping on the "look, this wonderful man left because of the heinous sinner Joe Kinnear - what a laughing stock" actually take a considered view of what Llambias had done. Two Summer's in a row, Llambias has fcked up our pre-season. He left us short-changed and is THE most responsible for the failure last season. He has done a good job, financially, but footballing-ly has failed miserably time and again. He was around when we went down, he was overseeing Wise/Jimenez arriving, he was there screwing around with Shearer and KK - don't let the media hamper your long term memory.

Furthermore, aside from ranting like a loony and getting names wrong, JK called the resignation of Llambias right. So it wasn't like he resigned BECAUSE of Kinnear, he apparently already has - and I think a fairer assumption than blaming Joke is looking at his record of failure. I would go so far as to suggest that the abysmal pre-season planning two years on the bounce is something to point a finger at, yet I can't seem to find that comment in the endless miles of articles condemning Kinnear's appointment.

Then there's the other facts - Ashley's utter inconsideration for the public. He does seem oblivious, but what choice does he have? Llambias was clearly asked to go which meant what NUFC and Ashley needed was someone with footballing knowledge to come in and get the club back on a firm foot ON the pitch. The financials off it aren't exactly fantastic so could do with work, but the urgency is in marketing a brand that finishes in the top 10 with an exciting and valuable squad, so get the product right first before selling it. It's all well and good to say "but isn't Hoddle available?" - what would be the difference? That instead of getting players names wrong, Hoddle would simply insist that Obertan wasn't picked because he was a murderer in his previous life? It's more palatable for sure, but if I was owner and had never met Hoddle in my life, it's unlikely I would want him employed because 'trust' is high on my agenda.

Let's also note that Ashley doesn't have a wide footballing circle. He doesn't go anywhere, with anyone. His choices are going to be severely limited. Somehow Joe Kinnear has penetrated this inner sanctum of trust - Joe Kinnear has done what thousands of journalists have failed to do, and he did it in 4 months at the club. If that doesn't tell you something about the character of the man, then what does?

Then there's the "oooooh, this is TOTALLY undermining Pards, poor guy - how does he feel?" So how did Pardew feel when Twitter went mental at reports of him being fired, with thousands of comments delighted he was being given his marching orders? How many of those are sympathising with his "situation"? Quite a few, I'd warrant. Happy enough to want him sacked, but outraged when the possibility comes around in a different way. An invented, fabricated way, it's worth pointing out.

Kinnear's media persona is buffoonish. He's archaic, maybe even ancient, and a long way from anyone's choice for the role. I would sooner none of this happened. But his former employees have never said anything but good things. Llambias is gone. Pardew is now more accountable. Ashley has made a change at the club, the intentions simply CANNOT be negative. There is NO point in the club getting relegated. So this single change - Llambias for Kinnear - may be daft, but might I argue that getting swept up in so much hypocritical bullsh!t at the hands of Fleet Street is maybe not the best way to go? Maybe, just maybe, we should take it with a pinch of salt - we've been through far, far worse - grab it with both hands and see what happens?

What would be so wrong in standing WITH Joe Kinnear, instead of against him?

 

Because he's a gibbering cockney potty mouthed buffoon who has actively insulted the intelligence of the fans?... just saying.

I do think that the press are lapping this **** up.
They will be camped outside SJP for the next installment.
I can just see David Craig knocing a cheeky one out in his caravan in Cullercoates and Loiuse Taylor hammering home a rampant rabbit in her Pennywell slum at the thought of being able to spread more sensationalised ****.

 

He hasn't, though, mate, not deliberately. To be fair, I think I'm more intelligent than probably 99% of NUFC fans. Maybe more....but Talksport don't want to interview me.

He's terrible in front of the media, he thinks they have an agenda. How dare he....oh, wait. So do ALL OF US ON THIS BOARD!!! The media are proving him right, ffs, by over-hyping everything he says - what more proof do we need?! That's what's got me thinking - he hates how the media portrays him, but - stupid Joe - trying to get the media to change that isn't possible. Yes, the guy should never have gone on like he did and - to be fair - NUFC have reigned him in (interview with TS this morning cancelled).

Pardew's a phenomenal diplomat; even when we can pick holes in his rhetoric, the media don't. It's like the Wonga/Cisse/Tiote debacle. Where's the comment from just ONE journalist about Virgin Money, or Northern Rock? Alcohol is against a devout muslims' religion, but not one player has refused to wear the Blue Star, Greenalls, Broon Ale, Carlsberg (L'pool) back in the day. Where's the journalist comments on AIG, who are making money in any number of unethical and probably illegal ways?! Journalists aim to get hits, sell papers, people like Joe make their lives worth living.

I just think we should maybe buck the trend on this one.

 

Can't she be done for bestiality for that?

 

Yeah. A rabbit should never try to **** a beast like her...

 

If Joke in Ear was so intelligent then his PR with the media, fans etc should be outstanding, we would be hailing him as the saviour of NUFC and calling for his statue to be errected in place of SBR, as for standing with him....No and I will not spend a penny more on NUFC whilst he is here, if that means no matches for the next 5 years then so be it, it's the only way I can really protest at what is happening to the club I have supported for the last 46 years.

 

Shouldn't that be Roger a beast like her?

 

Here's your coat, I saved you the trouble of getting it yourself...

 

I think quite a few people's passion has been dented by the ramblings of the nut case.

He needs to keep his lips sealed, or Ashley needs to seal them before there really is a major revolt.

 

Very kind and thoughtful of you sir.

No need to call me a cab, I'll just share Del Boys.

 

But what IS happening? The only "circus" is the media, so ignore the sh!tstorm they are trying to create and look at it impartially and objectively.

Llambias has been replaced by Kinnear, a man who has roundly offended the media and operated with less tact than an offensively-shaped breezeblock. So if his crimes are a lack of tact and hating the media, we should stop going to football matches? We're all guilty of 50% of this, and you only have to read through posts on here - more considered than radio interviews - to see irrational comments.

Did you not want Pards/Llambias held accountable for last season? Was it acceptable? Should the owner employ someone he trusts, or not? I don't like his choice, because I don't think Kinnear is progressive, modern, and he doesn't look the part - I fcking hate that stupid mullet above all else. But he's here and his job is to make NUFC better. Until he FAILS AT THAT, then what's the problem?

Ask yourself if this is worse than the club cashing in on its best players (Gascogine, Waddle), ask older fans what they remember from McKeag, et al. Look at Shepherd's ownership, look at nearly being relegated to Div3 before Keegan came, look at selling Cole to ManU, selling off Ginola, Ferdinand, look at the football under Allardyce or Souness and ask yourself if swapping Llambias for Kinnear is the worst thing you've seen at NUFC?!?!

I just don't see how the media should keep telling us what to think. Actions speak louder than words; if we get to Sep 1st and we're weaker than last season, then let's scream bloody murder.