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MERCEDES TRIBUNAL, VERDICT! What do you think will happen?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by 51LV3R8RR04, Jun 19, 2013.

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What will be the verdict?

Poll closed Jun 21, 2013.
  1. Nothing will happen to them

    18.5%
  2. Fine 1.00-10 million

    22.2%
  3. Major fine 11+ million

    25.9%
  4. Brawn gets excluded

    11.1%
  5. Points taken away

    3.7%
  6. Race ban for a period of time

    22.2%
  7. Kicked out of the sport

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Excluded from the WCC

    18.5%
  9. Excluded from WDC

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Drivers get season ban, new drivers thus to be needed

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Places and Points taken away from Monaco only

    3.7%
  12. Pirelli get the punishment instead

    7.4%
  13. Something involving Schumacher

    7.4%
  14. All of the above!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. I don't care *You lazy person....*

    3.7%
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  1. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Take your pick...

    Winner gets a lovely Signature to use: 'I AM THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!! World Champion 2013'
     
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  2. di Fredsta!

    di Fredsta! Well-Known Member

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    I think a hefty fine and that'll be it. No points lost or anything.
     
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  3. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    McLaren were fined $100m for spygate, and I guess the expulsion from the constructors would've been an extra £100m in prize money. If no sporting action is taken against Mercedes I think it will be about £100m fine.
     
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  4. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    Someone been watching too much Judge Dredd? <laugh>
     
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  5. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    Also, i'm going for a small fine. Because everyone has a part in this fiasco, it seems unfair for Mercedes to take the whole brunt of it. The FIA and Pirelli should be punished too, it took all 3 to make this a catastrophe.
     
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  6. World Class

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    A fine at worse.
     
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  7. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Brawn gone.... Suspended Punishment for Mercedes. No points deduction for either Drivers or Team.

    FIA and Pirelli fail to acknowledge any fault of their own.
     
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  8. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Mercedes will be excluded from the WCC and maybe fined as well. I also think Pirelli will be fined.
     
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  9. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Race ban sounds fair. Only way they will lose out on running of the cars and the rest get equal.. though I still don't think it's their fault
     
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  10. BrightLampShade

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    To be continued for 6-9 months knowing the FIA
     
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  11. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    For the sake of the poll, I've plumped for just one of the selections (very hefty fine for Mercedes), although it could be a combination of more than one of them.

    We should bear in mind that Pirelli are also 'in the dock' as it were, so it will be interesting to see how each 'defendant' influences the 'sentencing' of the other, if found guilty. I also confess to being at something of a loss with regard to how Pirelli will be punished, if they are indeed found to have breached any contractual rules.

    P.S. I do not expect it to take quite that long, BLS.
     
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  12. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I do think though that any one of those punishments could have a knock on of another.

    For example a hefty fine could cause Mercedes to pull out of F1.
    Or a minor one could cause Brawn to lose his job.
     
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  13. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Major fine and exclusion from the World Constructors' Championship, OR Ross Brawn is forced to walk a parade lap at each of the remaining races repeating the phrase "I am very sorry" to himself the entire way, miked up for the entire crowd to hear.







    While wearing a clown outfit.









    And the outfit is made by Pirelli and thus falls apart halfway through the lap.
     
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  14. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Superb.
     
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  15. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Pirelli aren't bound by the sporting regulations. They haven't broken competition rules. I think the fact they were complicit with another team breaking the rules will make it harder for them to renew their contract beyond their next one (obviously they'll get it next year because it's too late to change now, and they could use that position of strength to negotiate a contract longer than a year if they wished), but I wouldn't expect them to receive a hefty punishment from the FIA. Can the FIA punish Pirelli anyway? If they've breached their contract it would go to court rather than an FIA tribunal wouldn't it? It's not really a sporting matter. Weird situation.
     
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  16. BCS

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    Further evidence is presented requiring an additional review. Judgement deferred :)
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Mercedes should be fined, have the points the drivers won in Monaco taken away and kicked out of the WCC, they knew the rules and knew they were breaking them which is why they kept it so quiet before AND after, they also switched their drivers helmets around so they wouldn't be recognised. They went about the whole test in such a secretive and underhand manner from the very start that I'm surprised anyone thinks they aren't guilty tbh.
     
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  18. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think they should have the Monaco points taken away but no others Miggins? Seems unfair to me that Rosberg should have 25 points deducted and Hamilton only 12 when they both did the same thing. And why Monaco? If they benefitted from the test they'll benefit at every race after it, not just the one immediately after it.
     
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  19. BrightLampShade

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    No matter what happens tomorrow someone somewhere will appeal, I really do think this issue will run till the end of the season :s
     
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  20. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    ok, 25 points off each, they're both guilty AFAIC, they knew what they were doing was against the rules, which is why they were both so secretive about it (Tweet happy Hamilton strangely quiet about it on his twitter page, wearing 'disguised' helmets), I'd like to kick them both out of the championship tbh, as they've both been complicit in cheating, but I think it would be a bad move for F1 to kick 2 drivers out of the WDC, but I feel they must be punished as well as the team.
    and quite possibly beyond
     
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