please log in to view this image Red Bull RB9 - twin floor strake with hole in floor to induce a vortex & minimize Tyre Squirt ooo errrr Also, a lot of cars seem to have holes in their floors these days which I'm sure is illegal
please log in to view this image Heat damage showing that the exhaust gasses are going where they should be
Other side of the Pennines... From sunny Wakefield. Though I have spent the occasional day/night around Manchester.
I know someone mentioned it on the tyre thread, but there's serious rumours that Red Bull are somehow using Traction control.
Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 7h @Formula1extra @SomersF1 Nope, its just drivetrain oscillation causing a momentary change in toque at the wheels I trust Scarbs words over any Italian paper anyday! Traction control doesn't allow wheel spin and as Scarbs points out, must be a really crap traction control if it's doing that to the tyres.
Agreed, also, if RBR were running traction control, surely the car would be awesome out of low speed corners, meaning Vettel would have got pole in Monaco by a mile, but that didn't happen.
I think people are just clutching at straws with this whole traction control conspiracy... Looking for any hope that the title won't be sewn up too early.
*Fanboy mode on* Usual Italian media claiming that it's all the car and Vettel ISN'T just out driving everybody this year, including Alonso in an even faster car than last year and maybe debatable 'best' car. *Fanboy mode off* Sorry had to say that or it would of grated on my nerves if I didn't. Bit of an OCD problem I have, almost medical worthy. *EDIT* Some guy puts out another interesting theory that it's the flich throttle technique used during acceleration and braking which tries to replicate traction control. I have seen Nico and Lewis use this technique at the early stages of this year and I think RBR are just doing it now.
Don't believe so. Any TC on KERS would require some form of software to control it's output, where if I understand correctly,KERS has to be controlled by the driver.
No form of Traction Control is not allowed. i.e. No system may be designed to measure wheel rotation so as to regulate the power train at any stage. This applies equally to braking. Below is an edited comment I made in another thread in this forum. In view of Captain's reference to 'Scarbs' (which I've not yet had chance to read) it would now seem especially relevant to this thread: It seems most probable to me the effect we've been discussing is a combination of the above. It would also seem worth mentioning that just such an effect would most likely be triggered by a sudden jolt in the power train – precisely that which one might expect from KERS deployment. If considered beneficial, the effect might be further exploited by reducing or removing damping of KERS delivery in order to deliberately encourage such a jolt*. *Drive trains (transmissions) are more than up to the job of coping with such jolts to the system because they must be strong enough to cope with wheels bouncing over curbs, etc., where almost instantaneous and very large differences in torque can occur – far greater than the 10%–15% increase associated with KERS.
If it was traction control that was responsible for leaving such tyre marks, wouldn't it actually be a pretty poor system given the apparent lack of controlling traction? *scratches head*
