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Tottenham in the Summer Transfer window - 2013 edition!

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Moorpheus19, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. Sidney Fiddler

    Sidney Fiddler Well-Known Member

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  2. NSIS

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    Surely he's not going to run away from the chance of taking on his old boss head to head?..

    I think PSG are being fanciful if they think they can lure Bale at this stage. They really have nothing much to offer apart from money. They have no hope of winning the CL - not this year anyway. IF he goes, and I still think it's a big if, it will be to Real, not PSG.
     
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  3. Sidney Fiddler

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    PSG will become big with there unlimited funds.
    Look what happened with that little club called Chelsea.
     
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  4. NSIS

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    Possibly, we'll see. At the moment they have no chance of competing with the lure of Real Madrid.
     
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  5. Spurm

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    I don't want to move to France. Not everyone is the same. Who is to say that AVB is not more like me than more like you?
    I'm not saying he definitely wouldn't want to go (how would i know), but there is no guarantee he will just because you can list a few pros for PSG
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    Look out for visitors explaining that Chelsea have always been a big club!
     
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  7. NSIS

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    Anybody in particular?....<whistle>
     
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  8. lennypops

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    It's 23 people. As you say if most people found themselves in a group that size and two people shared a birthday they would think it was some amazing, note-worthy fact when actually it is just normal. More normal than it not happening. And if you had two groups that size where two people in each shared a birthday that would be a little over 25% probability. Though some would take it as a sign of the apocalypse and start buying in tinned food.

    In the courts of law the misinterpretation of chance and probability has major consequences to people's lives as jurors and judges cannot deal with the facts properly. Remember that woman who was put away for murdering her own kids because the chances of them both dying of cot-death was "millions-to-one"? Well no-one explained to the jury or the judge that "millions-to-one" WILL DEFINITELY happen every now and again when you have a country with millions of people, millions of mums, millions of babies. She was released when this was pointed out (along with the fact that sudden infant death has a hereditary element, thereby bringing the odds even further down).

    It's millions-to-one that I will win the lottery. But it's very likely that SOMEONE will win it if millions of people buy a ticket- it's not a miracle when they do.

    Likewise the top sport people in a random sport having the same initials now and again is not bizarre or surprising - it's to be expected. There are only 26 letters in the alphabet, after all. And that's including Q, Y and Z etc - which not many American or English names begin with. So call it 23. With some, like D, J etc being particularly likely.

    I've not read Freakonomics but have read a couple of books on randomness. In one it had the case of someone who won the lottery twice in a year or something. far from being proof of some strange force behind the scenes of reality it was shown that actually this happening to someone somewhere should happen every couple of decades or so (?) and is to be expected.

    The Mighty Thor - no offense taken by your post and please don't take any from mine. Just explaining that these things you point out ARE coincidences. They are normal, they are to be expected and they certainly do not prove that "things even themselves out". You have cherry-picked a handful of cases. What would your argument have been before Lampard's "goal" in the Euros? And does a goal that effectively decides a World Cup Final equate to a consolation goal in a knock-out game in the Euros? When will Ghana be given a goal against Uruguay to make up for the Suarez handball? Is it written in the stars? I mean - you support SPURS for god's sake - you really think that bad luck gets evened out with good luck later down the line every time? Does that mean we'll win the CL next season despite not even being in the competition and somehow relegating Arsenal on the way? Cos we must be due a bit of luck, no?
     
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  9. lennypops

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    Sorry - that was much longer than I intended.

    So back on topic have we signed some Brazilian I've never heard of before? Preferably someone whose name ends in "...inho"? (Oh God - now I sound like Alan Sugar).
     
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  10. The Mighty Thor

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    We'll be lucky to get Paulinho as he's a very wanted player.
     
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  11. District Line

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    Inter-bound
     
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  12. District Line

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    PSG were big, they are a capital based club. They had Ronaldinho, George Weah, Okocha, Anelka, Arteta, Djorkaeff and others playing for them. An absolutely flawless scouting system and a huge fanbase.

    I won't bite at the second comment, but it's a similar story.
     
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  13. vimhawk

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    The sad truth is that the money sides will get to do their business first, if they want to. We are left with the rest, or finding someone that these other clubs haven't noticed or for some reason don't want. Agents will simply wait to see if there is an offer from a rich CL club before considering ours, unless we want to pay way way over the odds (and then it's not exactly guaranteed), but that way lies extreme danger IMHO.
     
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  14. totsfan

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    they have only been big since RA,they though they were once in the 70's,but the manager put a stop to that,was it Doc,or Sexton? :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  15. Roo

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    I don't see the appeal of Inter. Or anyone in Italy these days.
     
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  16. District Line

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    Depends how you define a big club. The suggestion that a club isn't big because it hasn't won much is slightly myopic. A club is only really as big as the number of members it has. Then again, Leeds are certainly a bigger club than Fulham, but if you're a player which club would you choose to play for? It's a very complex term. Like asking how to define success.
     
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  17. District Line

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    Me neither. They aren't even in Europe are they? Playing in a league with less publicity isn't going to help his chances. Scolari has some big choices to make this Summer and the Brazilian League/La Liga/Bundesliga/PL players will be at an advantage.
     
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  18. The Mighty Thor

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    Well District we might not be as good as PSG but we are better than Inter so he'll be making a mistake going there.
     
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  19. lennypops

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    Before Chelsea got into the debt normally associated with nation states and subsequently got flogged to Abramovich Chelsea were a sort of upper-middle-sized club, weren't they? Sort of like Fulham or Sunderland. They got crowds of about 4000 or something for some games in the 90s didn't they?

    I guess you'd definitely describe them as a small club compared to Man Utd, Liverpool, etc. As I grew up in the 80s and 90s they were sort of equivalent to West Ham in my mind.
     
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  20. Roo

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    it's just not competitive enough. There isn't anywhere near as many big name players over there these days.
    Eredivisie is more appealing IMO. The standard of football is excellent, especially for a youngster to learn from.
     
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