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Looks like the "special one" was not liked in spain

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by HRH Custard VC, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member
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    I do love all the Chelsea fans desperately trying to convince each other of the 'fact' that it must mean Chelsea are in ascendancy and Jose would never ever consider turning them down. Not like Mourinho would just tell them what they want to hear now he's been appointed manager.

    After all, it's not like Jose ever admitted that everything he says to the press is a calculated bid to try and improve his situation and get fans and players on his side <whistle>
     
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  2. District Line

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    But yet you somehow believe all the BS Fergie was spouting about Moyes always being the chosen choice when all the evidence suggests he was the last resort.
     
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  3. Swarbs

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    When have I ever stated that? And what evidence do you actually have other than the smoke Mourinho will spend the next two months blowing up your arse as hard as he can?

    But keep talking and believing Mourinho's propaganda if it helps you get through the summer <ok>
     
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  4. Chief

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    What evidence?

    Or are you suggesting the ****e in your head is evidence?
     
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  5. District Line

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    Just a coincidence that Portuguese and Spanish media both claimed (before the deal) that Mourinho's preference to live in London due to family needs was a primary reason for rejecting Man U.

    French & English media claim Ancelotti was offered the job before Moyes.

    Reality is, you've got a 2nd/3rd choice in as manager and Chelsea/City got their 1st as theirs were lined up from January (at the latest).
     
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  6. One of the lads

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    Spanish and English media claim that Guardiola turned down Chelsea. Must be true then.
     
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  7. Chief

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    That's not evidence.

    That's press speculation.
     
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  8. Swarbs

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    Selective memory ahoy! <laugh>

    And English media claimed that Mourinho wasn't even considered for the Utd job. Which Mourinho confirmed when he said he wasn't offered the job.

    'French media'? It was in the French tabloids, the French eqivalent of the Daily Fail. And it's also something Ancelotti specifically denied in L'Equipe, a (relatively) credible paper.
     
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  9. Swarbs

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    Selective memory ahoy! <laugh>

    And English media claimed that Mourinho wasn't even considered for the Utd job. Which Mourinho confirmed when he said he wasn't offered the job.

    'French media'? It was in the French tabloids, the French eqivalent of the Daily Fail. And it's also something Ancelotti specifically denied in L'Equipe, a (relatively) credible paper.
     
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    Never mind the fact that his return was totally circumstantial.

    Dependent on,
    RDM doing bad and getting sacked.
    maureen doing bad at Madrid and getting sacked,
    Guardiola not wanting the Chelsea job when approached.

    A lot of blues talk as if this was always on the cards but it never was. Things had to go bad for Chelsea and Mourinho before him n RA got back into bed together and thats exactly what happened.

    For all of Jose's nonsense blowing smoke up Chelsea fans arses, had he had a successful season and not alienated everyone at Real Chelsea would have a different manager or still have Rafa
     
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  11. District Line

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    But yet:

    - Guardiola wasn't the man Abramovich wanted
    - Talks between Abramovich & Mourinho re: his return began whilst RDM was Interim manager

    You need to stop reading tabloids and think for yourself. Businessman aren't stupid, they don't become that rich by making slapdash decisions. Abramovich has a history of lining up future managers whilst current managers are still in place. Happened with Ranieri, Scolari, AVB & RDM.

    Mourinho fell out with Casillas and co long before last season, it was actually the season before (11/12). He'd wanted to leave from then onwards.
     
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  12. Chief

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    Are these the same tabloids you claim are evidence that United offered various managers the job before Moyes?

    Or different ones?
     
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  13. UnitedinRed

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    DL, tbf United have been linked with Moyes for a decade. Its not something new.

    Years an years ago United fans were aware of Moyes being the apparent successor to Fergie.
     
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    The guys lived in Italy and Madrid which to my knowledge are 100's and 100's of miles away from London so location wouldnt of been much of concern imo.

    City got their second choice, they wanted Mourinho and Chelsea got their second choice as they wanted Pep.

    United got their first choice. I know this because the club said so. I know the Chelsea one is true because they made no secret of it. I'm guessing at City but knowing City, they didnt even know who Malaga or Pellegrini were 6 months ago.
     
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    Now now, don't you start being all logical<laugh>

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jose and Chelsea are like the last two people left without a date the night before the big dance. **** if he wanted to take that ugly bitch to the dance but who the **** else was there.<laugh>
     
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  16. Swarbs

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    Seriously?!?

    Ranieri - Mourinho said he would prefer Liverpool and said "Chelsea does not interest me so much because it is a new project with lots of money invested in it". He only joined Chelsea after Liverpool chose Benitez over him, he was hardly lined up before Ranieri was fired.
    Scholari and AVB, remind us all how those worked out again? Real smart businessman there <laugh>
    And how was RDM ever lined up as a future manager? He was the assistant made caretaker after another Abramovich snap decision to sack his manager with no replacement. And when he was sacked himself, you ended up grubbing around at the bottom of the barrel for Benitez, who hated the club and the club hated him.

    Abramovich may have shown some business acumen when building his fortune, although most of that was down to bribes, exploitation and outright violence, but as de facto manager of Chelsea his decisions have, more often than not, been disastrous with the majority of your success down to him getting lucky rather than any sort of effective planning.
     
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    It must really have hurt Roman and the Chavs that despite offering him more than twice the money and a massive budget Pep chose Bayern over the Chavs.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/16/chelsea-roman-abramovich-pep-guardiola

    Having said that this is quite understandable. After managing Barcelona, who wants to go down into the gutter to work with a club which are the worst ever winners of the champions league ? A trophy they 'won' by NOT playing football and promptly confirmed their wretched performance by being the only CL winners to be dumped at the league stage. Who would want to be associated with this rabble built on dodgy money except one who as been chased out of Spain? No shortage of top Spanish players saying good riddance to the manager brought to win the CL but failing miserably and running away after being humiliated and falling out with his own top players. No wonder the Chavs and Mourinho found each other <laugh>
     
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  18. District Line

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    But yet... We were never interested in Guardiola
     
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  19. District Line

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    You've not disproved anything I said. Abramovich traditionally seeks replacements early. Why would that change? He's been after Mourinho since 2012.
     
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  20. Drogs

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    don't worry, it really did not hurt us... cock end.
     
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