Cosicave pretty much sums it up for me. In short: Silverstone "fans" seem more worried about their drivers, with a lot of "groups" caring only about their result. Spa-Francorchamps is all about the whole event and getting very drunk, VERY! drunk with everybody and not remembering what happend. One for me is like returning to School, the other is like going to a rock show.
Now that makes more sense. F1 fans are usually quite partisan for some reason, I'm not exactly sure why... so I can totally understand how you get a change in atmosphere when watching a race in a more neutral zone or when it's a form of motorsport that doesn't divide fans loyalties as much. Spent many years going to BTCC racing and the atmosphere there was always relaxed and much food and beer would be consumed by all. Good times.
My apologies for making less sense, Bhaji! I think it's fair to say CapF1 is likely to have a much better understanding from the fans' perspective. I'm on the wrong side of the door, so to speak, to get much more than the odd glimpse and a general feel; but I sometimes speculate about the reasons behind the differences. In fact it's is partly why I'm here in this forum!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, laaaaaa de daaaaaaa One of these days cosicave you need to tell me a series you drive in. I'll get a flag and cheer you on #teamcosicave
Thanks Captain but it's probably safer I steer clear of your kind offer for now! I'll be more than happy if you just get yourself to Le Mans or the Nürb within the next few years and cheer everyone! P.S. Apologies if it sounded "la-di-dah". I hesitated before writing it but in a moment of recklessness, I thought "what the hell…" Besides, we're all friends here aren't we? I should add that I often see 'the other side of the fence' as rather an enviable place to be (yes, seriously!); but accept that most things in life come at a price.
I'll just be a cosicave fanboy. "No way, cosicave can drive around any problem! Don't see him needing Newey to win!"
Just looked at the website, what on earth is a "public exposure partner"? It sounds like the type of thing that can land you in trouble!
Nah, all tounge and cheek nothing more. I was thinking of doing something like this at Spa: [video=youtube;sINKG8RxRs0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sINKG8RxRs0[/video] What do you think?
I think it's time for a game of Hot / Cold. I'll start: Cosi doesn't currently drive competively, but has in the past. He's still involved in motor racing, maybe something along the lines of sports cars, but in some kind of ambassadorial or technical role working closely with a driver or drivers. Hot or Cold?
It's obvious guys. Cosi is the result of a freak attempt to create another Schumacher, from circa 1995. When they tried to clone Schumacher's mind into Cosi's, they only succeeded in transplanting Schumacher's moral compass. Hence Schumacher competed for years missing one, and Cosi has the utmost disdain for Schumacher, as he views his creation as his own fault, and feels acutely every time Schumacher drove someone off the road. I challenge you all to give an alternative explanation that simultaneously explains Schumacher's ruthlessness, and Cosi's hatred for him.
I think if cosi wants to remain anonymous then we should respect that. ... Who knows what ramifications it could cause if we find out he is Dr Helmut Marko
I've never watched a race in Europe, but I've been going to Silverstone for as long as I can remember for various events and the experience seems to get worse for various reasons. Cosi has said about fans getting a better deal elsewhere and that doesn't surprise because Silverstone seem to treat the fans with less and less respect these days, treating them more like a commodity to be milked than people. One such example that particularly grates on me is the amount of corporate seating there these days, and lack of standing areas. I managed to get there for free practice last year and it was hosing it down, there were dozens of covered grandstands exclusively for Vodafone and Santander customers almost completely empty, and the real fans, the ones who had actually made the effort to turn up on the Friday were being turned away from them and made to stand in the rain because the general admission grandstands were full. It was disgraceful. They also put nothing on apart from the racing. I remember when I was a kid they'd have cars on stands all over the place, it made such a lasting impression on me as a youngster to be able to get up close to and touch these machines. Now all there is is an endless sea of food stalls and the odd merchandise stand. The sport itself has worsened as a spectacle too in my opinion. The V8s still make a hell of a sound but they're nothing compared to the V12s that used to run when I first went. Everyone used to wear ear plugs it was so loud, and you'd still leave with ringing ears. I took a radio with me one year and I had to jam the headphones in my ears to be able to hear any commentary. No one bothers with ear plugs these days and next year's V6s will be even quieter. Then the amount of run off they have nowadays means you're not stood/seated as close to the track as you used to be. Obviously this is necessary but it dilutes the experience a bit. I agree with Silver about a lot of fan(boy)s caring more about the result than the sport. I was there in 2010 and before the qualifying everyone had been talking up the McLarens for the win. Vettel duly put it on pole with the McLarens in 4th and 14th, the atmosphere was like a funeral, for a couple of minutes after Q3 ended you could've heard a pin drop at Vale before all the discontented grumbling started. There was no violence but I did feel a bit uncomfortable wearing a Vettel shirt in a sea of angry McLaren fans. The atmosphere is generally more akin to a pantomime than a sporting event I find. There seems to be far more casual fans than motorsport enthusiasts I find, which surprises me if I'm honest, given how much tickets cost I thought it would mainly be die hard fans who paid out, then again the casuals do get pretty passionate about their drivers. I've rambled on too much already so I won't even start on the shambles that was the traffic control last year.
Yeah agreed, hopefully Cosi sees it as harmless. I don't think anyone's making a serious attempt to unmask him.
Imagine being in Italy, and Ferrari perform similarly bad, A McLaren just dropped their car on pole, and you're at Parabolic in a Macca shirt. #awkward
