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Kerim Frei Can Go if the Price is Right

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  1. Cottager58

    Cottager58 Well-Known Member

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    There are further reports linking Fulhams Kerim Frei with a move to Galatasaray, Turkish news outlet Sport X were yesterday reporting that Galatasaray had lodged a EU 2.5 million bid for the 19 year old winger.

    It also says that last week officials from both clubs met in London and Fulham had said he couldn't go for less than EU 4m. The Club is also said to have indicated that clubs from Spain and Germany have also made enquiries, with Borussia Dortmund showing very strong interest

    And acccording to his father he wants to join Galatasaray:

    Source: http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=4726
     
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  2. Cookie-6262

    Cookie-6262 Well-Known Member

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    This guy shouldn't be leaving! He has the potential to be massive and IMHO is a better prospect than kaca. We should be giving him a long contract and playing time in the first team.

    Dortmund and Galatasaray want him that should tell us all we need to know, both champions league teams with massive budgets who can buy whoever they want but they want Frei. Even kaca only has Europa cup spurs after him and we are all saying £7 mill isn't enough for him!

    If he goes a) we as fans should very angry b) he should only be going for massive money £10 million I really think this kd could be special

    If Frei goes for £3 mill it will be a sad day
     
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  3. Bidley

    Bidley Well-Known Member

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    I don't think flimsy rumours are a good way of judging a player.
     
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  4. Cookie-6262

    Cookie-6262 Well-Known Member

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    Bidley I'm not using the rumours to judge him i rate him extremely highly from what I have seen of him I think he is the best prospect he have had in my time supporting the club (brant foot era)! I rate him higher than kaca and even if these rumours have no substance I have no doubt he will end up at a much bigger club than us eventually! It wouldn't shock me if these rumours are slightly stronger than flimsy!
     
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  5. roscafre

    roscafre Active Member

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    We all know that a club of our size will allways be selling,but what is worrying me is that we do not seem to be
    in the market for qualityfollowing substantial income from our previous sales.(the double Ds being an example).
    As i have said before,we cannot expect to climb the table, let alone win a trophy relying on acquisitions solely
    from the bargain bucket.
     
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  6. Cookie-6262

    Cookie-6262 Well-Known Member

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    Hi roscafre

    I totally agree with you we will not climb the table with this policy we need to reinvest any profit we make!

    I have no problem with the policy of developing our own talent, and selling them on for a good profit making the club self sufficient but for me we have to get these talents into first team where they help the team to become better and once they are the finished article ( or close to) we sell them on for a good profit to re invest

    We should not be selling them before we ourselves have seen/used/benefited from there talents

    Why sell frie now for £3 million??? Lets turn him into a first team regular get a couple of good seasons out of him where we see him develop into a good player and then sell him for £10 million
     
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  7. Bandit

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    2.5 million Euros is a joke of an offer. He's got PL experience, is young and a full time international, offers below £5m shouldn't even be considered.
     
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  8. Captain Morgan

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    Agreed. I don't want to see him sold, but if we do sell him it should be for a lot more than is being quoted. I'd also like to see us reinvest and add some carefully chosen occasional big money signings. But (and I've argued this before - sorry), getting the right bargain signings is the only way for a club like us to compete.

    There's a danger of us being hypocritical and self-contradicting. We complain that the club isn't making big money signings and that we're relying on bargain signings, then we moan that we aren't picking up unheralded players like Michu and Cabaye when other clubs are getting them relatively cheaply. What we need to do is pick up young-ish players (23, thereabouts) with the potential to grow into top premier league players before everyone is talking about them as big stars. Already, it's too late to sign Jordan Rhodes at a reasonable fee - Blackburn paid £8m, and he's done well so they surely won't let him go for less than £10m. If we wait until players have proved themselves, they will either be prohibitively expensive or will be looking to go to a bigger club than us.

    Personally, I think Jol does a good job of making the most of our resources. I hope we aren't finished for the summer, but I'd like to see two or three signings of 21-23 year olds from the championship, plus maybe one big signing in centre midfield. A striker would be good, but that is a position where it's worth buying someone to make a step up.

    Of course, this only works if the club identifies the right players, and most of us don't watch enough football to have a really good sense of who those players are. Harry Arter from Bournemouth (midfield playermaker) was mentioned at one point last season, and having seen him play a few times, plus talking to people who see him more than I do, I think he would be a decent gamble. If we actually were interested in him, I'm sure that more knowledgeable observers than me will have watched him several times and worked out whether he's got the technique, character, whatever to make it. The point of this isn't for me to push Harry Arter's case, I'm just saying that players like him are the best way for a team like us to compete. We can't often sign big stars: we have to sign prospects and make them into stars.
     
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  9. Cottager58

    Cottager58 Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully we can play Besiktas and Galatasary off of one another. They probably both expect Frei to be the new face of Turkish football.
     
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  11. fulham traveller

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    he had great potential, pleasing on the eye, and he should be given a run in the team, and not sold for peanuts, stupid ffc
     
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  12. Captain Morgan

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    Don't you think we should hold off from criticizing the club for being stupid until they've actually done the stupid thing we're complaining about? I'm not saying we aren't capable of letting Frei go for peanuts, but unless I've missed something he's still a Fulham player at the moment.
     
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  13. Surlyc

    Surlyc Well-Known Member

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    As is Kaca.

    Whilst I do appreciate the concerns, we've not let many players go on the cheap in recent times. We got top dollar for Smalling and Dembele had a release clause. Dempsey is really the only player where we've screwed up with recently.
     
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    And even then we played hardball. We rejected derisory bids from Liverpool and Spurs came in with a higher one at the death. Considering our position (30-yr old player, year left on contract, made it publicly known he wanted to leave) I think we did ok.
     
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  16. Captain Morgan

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    I think the one thing the club can be accused of screwing up with Dempsey, and others, is allowing players to reach the final year of a contract. Arguably we should have looked to sell Dempsey a year earlier to get a more realistic fee. On the other hand, if we had done that we would all be moaning about the club's lack of ambition and over-eagerness to cash in rather than keep hold of our best players. The club will be criticised whichever way they go in that kind of situation.
     
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  17. Cottager58

    Cottager58 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely Captain. And we're at risk of repeating history with a large number of players on contracts due to end in the summer of 2014. I reckon they fall into 3 groups and, if the Club are not already doing so, they should be reviewing them NOW


    1. Main Squad

    Dimitar Berbatov - Summer 2014 (2 years)
    Matthew Briggs - Summer 2014 (3.5 years)
    Philippe Senderos - Summer 2014 (1 year)
    Steve Sidwell - Summer 2014 (3 years)
    Neil Etheridge - Summer 2014 (1 year with option of a further year)

    Doubt if we would get Berba to sign a new contract at this time but there has to be a re-sale value in the others if we extend their contracts

    2. Back-up Squad

    Aaron Hughes – Summer 2014 (1.5 years)
    Damien Duff - Summer 2014 (1 .5 years)
    John Arne Riise - Summer 2014 (3 years)

    Doubtful if the risk if incurring extra cost in wages by giving contract extensions could be justified


    3. Youngsters

    Alex Brister - June 2014 - (2 years)
    Cauley Woodrow - June 2014 (2.5 years)
    Dan Burn - Summer 2014 (3 years)
    Dino Islamovic - Summer 2014 (2.5 years)
    Jesse Joronen – Summer 2014 (2 years)
    Josh Pritchard - Summer 2014 (2 years) - not sure where we are on Josh; he may already be on his way
    Lyle Della Verde - Summer 2014 (2 years)
    Marcus Bettinelli - June 2014 (2 year extension)
    Max Oberschmidt - June 2014 - (?)
    Muamer Tankovic - Summer 2014 (3 years)
    Omri Altman - Summer 2014 - (2 years)
    Ryan Williams - Summer 2014 (2.5 years)
    Stephen Arthurworrey - Summer 2014 (3 years)
    Vigen Christensen - Summer 2014 (2.5 years)

    Some exceptional potential in this group. But they are not all going to get first team places at Fulham. Most will have some value if their contract was not renewed because of the ‘development formula‘. However that would be minimal compared to their re-sale value if they had decent terms still to run.
     
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