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Swansea sever ties with Laudrup's agent, but the Dane will stay

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  1. Scottswan

    Scottswan Active Member

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    Full articles available at www.theswanseaway.co.uk

    Wow, that was a crazy few hours wasn't it? Earlier in the day I'd bemoaned the lack of news from SA1 of late (from a selfish point of view anyway - it's easier to write about the Swans when there's actually stuff going on!) however the arrival of a text this evening changed all that. Perhaps a little melodramatically, the text read "!&$% - that's Laudrup off then", which obviously led me to investigate just what on earth had gone on.

    First up, it was announced earlier today by the Evening Post that Swansea City had severed all ties with Bayram Tutumlu, Laudrup's agent and a major player in all the recent unrest at the Liberty. The man himself was quick to respond;


    He went on:

    Apparently he also told Skysports that he was happy he no longer has to work with Huw over transfers, but I've not been able to find any quotes from an official source which backs up that he called our chairman a liar. It's all over message boards and the like, however if someone can send me an official link to that I'd be most interested in reading it.

    Laudrup himself was also quick to respond, speaking directly to the Evening Post. He was keen to state his commitment to the club and despite the temporary uproar caused by this story it seems Swans fans can finally rest easy in the knowledge Laudrup will be the Swansea manager next season.


    Seemingly tying the matter up, a cheeky chappy called @Luke_Morgan on Twitter asked Laudrup's daughter to say goodbye (as he thought at that point that it was certain the manager was on his way). She responded by saying "He promised to stay, so he's staying". She went on:

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    I'll be honest, this latest bout of press-based shenanigans has left me wondering if all along this was simply an issue between Tutumlu and Huw/the board. The quotes which kicked this all off were all along the lines of "if Michael doesn't get the players he wants then who knows" and it was all from the agent. Realistically, if he was involved in the signing of Chico, De Guzman, Michu & Pablo there's no reason to assume he wouldn't have been involved in recent transfer dealings - putting him at loggerheads with Huw.

    This clearly isn't an issue that's sparked off overnight; it's been festering for a while but in fairness to Laudrup he's never said anything other than "my intention is to stay". It's possible that Tutumlu simply grew frustrated with the Swans preference for building a solid club as opposed to pumping more money into the transfer kitty, however whatever the issue is the club have put a bold line underneath it by announcing that they will no longer deal with him.

    For me, I accept that I will never know the exact ins and outs of the football club I love. There's a lot that I, and most fans don't know and I'm happy with that, as I have faith in the current regime to run the football club in the way that they think is best. Ok, there are going to be occasions whereby naivety and inexperience lead to slight imperfections (ticketing, anyone?) however they move fast to address these problems for one crucial reason; they always have the best interests of the club at heart. Can you say the same for Tutumlu? I doubt it.

    The club have come a long way in the last 10 years and I think they've earned our faith. They've admitted that 10 years ago they had to "blag it" to a certain extent until they'd figured out just how to run a football club, however after a rise which wasn't quite meteoric, but spectacularly successful in it's own right they deserve the backing of the fans in situations such as this. They're only human, they'll make mistakes, but the key is learning from them and they've consistently done this in my opinion.

    So, issue over? Somehow, I doubt it...
     
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  2. swan_and_only

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    There are rumors that ML will be the next PSG manager.

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Le-psg-avance-sur-m-laudrup/378242

    http://esportes.terra.com.br/futebol/laudrup-torna-se-o-plano-b-do-psg-caso-ancelotti-saia-para-o-real,f22e0effe573f310VgnCLD2000000ec6eb0aRCRD.html
     
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  3. Yankee_Jack

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    Nice write-up ScottSwan. i concur with your statement that all along this was a disagreement between the Club and Big T as a players' agent and not as ML's agent and that ML was trying to avoid a presence in the conflict as clearly it would compromise his position with the Club and his personal interests, which at this point involves our club as a focal point of his talents and interest. I have made multiple postings under other articles to this effect.

    Now many of the "quotes" and "happenings" to have been reported over the last week or two begin to make sense. There is a context in which to understand them and within this context of Club v Players' Agent they make sense.

    I am looking optimistically into the future. My confidence in ML and his personal integrity is intact. My confidence in the Club and its administration is intact. We may have to dance smartly to get additional new signings in the door by the start of training or whenever we have to declare a squad for the first round(s) of the Europa League; but this is a consequence of the meetings breaking down between Big T and the Club and the agent walking the players that he represents in a different direction - who knows what or who is walking with him - we may never know.

    There are still over two months of player hunting to go before the window closes. I'll bet its guerrila warfare out there between top clubs, agents and players - those with no place to call home (do we really want them) and those looking for better (do they warrant it) - either way its not easy and as long as we are fighting to be one of the best it's never going to be easy.

    Let's move forward. We're much stronger now than we were this time last season. It can only get better.
     
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  4. Cherry Jack

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    Can I just say thank you Scott and Yankee...you've made me feel a lot better after I panicked upon seeing the stupid Beeb article, I don't like negative Swans rumours when i've been on the lash!
     
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  5. hawkmoonfy2

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    As a neutral looking on from across the Severn you chairman might just have hamstrung your manager if his Agent was involved in getting players to Swansea without the club having to pay him, and he was still looking for players for your manager, to say that the club won't deal with him seems to be a big mistake.
     
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  6. Shaper

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    I agree with Cherry. Thanks to Scott and Yankee I'm a little (tiny little bit) less tense about the whole situation.

    As for Bayram's involvement in the super signings, he is NOT their agent.
    He is NOT the acting party for their former clubs.
    He was NOT paid by Swansea City.
    I suspect his role can only have been in an advisory/scouting role. He can still advise and scout for ML seeing as he's ML's bestest friend in the world.

    If ML stays and Bayram continues to have NO official capacity. What will have changed?
     
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  7. MabonJack

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    Nothing has changed as far as i am concerned i still beleive that both laudrup and lulu are trying to engineer a move away from the swans, and all this is just a smokescreen to make his position untenable, there is apparently a 10m release clause in his contract and in my opinion i think laudrup his hoping the swans will sack him so his next club do not have to pay it
     
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  8. Stumpy

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    Now we know why there has been little transfer activity from us as it appears Tumultu has actively attempted to interfere in our efforts and now the full extent of his interference has become apparent.

    Tumultu has attempted to insinuate himself into our club by aggressively attempting to take control away from the board regarding our transfer strategy. He wanted to set himself up so he would predict who we sign and who we don't, not ML or our board. Control of our club would quickly seep from us to him through the substantial control he would have over our players.

    As a proxy 'transfer strategy controller' he would stand to make £M's out of us as he would have the final say on all transfer activity, not our board. Not only would he make £M's from us by controlling our our future team he would also make £M's in agents fees by signing his own players and he would make £M's in fees from other prospective players and their agents. Basically he would be paid by us for services, again by us as and active agent or by prospective players and their agents through arrangement fees, introduction fess etc etc.

    If this was allowed to happen then he would control of our club, not our board, our fans, him.

    What Tumultu didn't account for is that our club is comfortable playing poker and they called his bluff by publicly severing all ties with him.

    Now, he officially has 'now where to go'

    In response, and to save face, he is attempting to backtrack and deny what has happened.

    On the surface it seems that ML has quietly sided with us by continuously repeating his intention to stay next season and by not publicly supporting his agent.

    In response Tumultu is attempting to goad us into a public fight, a slanging match where any response to his derogatory statements "he [Huw J] should show his balls...." would only make us appear adversarial affording him an opportunity to publicly drive a wedge between us and his cash cow, ML.

    ML has left all of his previous clubs on relatively poor terms and the only other common denominator has been his boy Byrum Tumultu. I expect more bitter comments from this predator as he attempts to wedge us and ML apart.

    Gianfranco Zola anyone ?
     
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  9. Kifflom!

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    I'm getting really tired of this guy and his public comments have shown him for what I said he was ages ago - Hissing Sid. A ****ing snake. No wonder Laudrup can't hold down a job for any length of time with this tool ****ing about on his behalf. His antics have left the fans (and this board) not knowing who to have a pop at next. One minute everyone was saying Jenkins was to blame, and the next Laudrup.

    Fact is our Manager now has to decide on his priorities. At the moment he's come out and said he's committed to us and that's fine. But when you have a long-standing mate whispering in your ear about (for example) the job at PSG this may only end one way.
     
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  10. swanseaandproud

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    what an idiot huw jenkins is...do he honestly think that by diverting all the blame on laudrups agent will put any blame away from his shoulders....Just look at all the players this man has negotiated for laudrup......he could have got us laudrups targets too if huw never interfered and gone back on his word....Huw knew very well laudrups targets so why did he not say at the time of the negotiations that he was not going to back the moves...This man for all that actually knows him loves to take all the credit but if it end up in a row he will pass the buck just like he is doing now....Huw is the one who is bad for our future as he still lives in the lower leagues, laudrup is honoring his contract even though he is in his rights to leave jinks to it but he dont want to let the players or the fans down....not like jinks is doing.....
     
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  11. PaGaNsWaN

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    You don't half talk some **** Dai.
     
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  12. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Let me guess , Huw's getting a bashing
     
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    Yep ..Its like the man hasn't bothered to read anything on this subject in the last two days.
     
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  14. Shaper

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    Aside from the obvious grammatical errors, this post has some other errors. How can Huw Jenkins be held accountable for this problem?
    As I've already said, Tumultu hasn't acted on behalf of any of our players (he's not their agent), S.C.F.C (he's not our agent/solicitor) or the clubs we bought them from (he's not their agent either). So he has had nothing to do with the purchase of those players in anything other than an advisory role to Michael Laudrup (which he can still do, being his close friend). Jenkins (with the rest of the board) has steered the club to success in superb financial shape. I suspect his shrewd defiance in the face of big-time Charlie agents hasn't hurt either.
     
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  15. Scottswan

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    I read the first six words and it wasn't worth going beyond that.
     
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  16. neveroffsidereff

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    Sorry Dai, Huw's not throwing his toys out of the pram because he's not getting his way. It's all very well bashing him constantly but how much would the prick of an agent be trying to cream from the Swans. I don't see Huw trying to flog Ash, this prick is trying to engineer a move for Ash out of the club, and It would probably be at our cost.

    Laudrup has a contract with us, not that prick, so he can't go and dictate to us who we should be signing.

    I know who I trust!!!
     
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    You just dont get it do you, Without laudrups agent we would not have the likes of michu,chico and others and he did not charge us a penny as he was doing his friend a favour just like he has always done, Now Jinx the idiot and con man he is let laudrup believe he had money for his targets while in negotiations about laudrups future and because of that laudrups agent has been travelling around on laudrups behalf speaking to these targets and bragging up the club that it was a good place to come.....just like he did with michu,chico and a few others. He did this for laudrup and it was all free of charge for the club....Now after speaking to laudrups targets he and laudrup find that its been a total waste of time and of course they are angry and they want an explanation why jinx has led them down the garden path.....maybe laudrup should have done some research on huw as he has a history of letting his managers down....Now you can be taken in by jinx and his pass the buck spin but i call him a liar. you can believe all you want that he saved the club rubbish all you want too, He has got you like all liars do believing every word he says and that is so untrue is beyond comprehension to those of us who know him.....sousa was a boy for him he would not take his rubbish and said so....Laudrup is only staying for the players and the fans sake and that will only be short term as certain players have pledged to leave the club if he goes as they only came here because he is manager, Its going to be very tough to stay in the premiership now as we will have to bring in players that are not as good as we need and that is all down to an idiot called jinx and we will end up sorry when we lose players who wont put up with it and we will never be able to attract good players anymore.....If im talking rubbish then so is a very prominent coach at the club who i speak to whenever there is news about the club.....
     
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    Any agent can say they brought Michu and Chico to the club, where are the FACTS to say HE did do it? We only have his word, and nothing more.
     
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    Really could be arsed to read it, I know what it says. Same old ****e you been spouting for years Dai.
     
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    Be careful the PC brigade will be on here defending his right to post complete and utter bollox.
     
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