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When will Pardew Offer Stabillity (Consistency) In What He Says???

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  1. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-art...eliver-stability-consistency-in-what-he-says/

    Came across this article and pretty much sums Pardew up for me last season.

    Some fans want stabillity and are happy that he's staying, I get that. My main problem is that he doesn't offer that to us, his goals/aims seem to change on a weekly basis (as do his team selections/tactics) and as a result I fear we're unlikely to progress with him in charge. He gets himself in to a hole by making stupid comments and then by trying to get out of said hole he goes and makes an even wildier statement.

    Hope I'm wrong and he goes on to build/create an identity for us this season, but the comments highlighted in bold in that article pretty much show that he hasn't got a long term plan of action on where he wants us to be and how he wants us to play.
     
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    For those who want to criticise Pardew, this is another stick to beat him with.

    It's also almost exactly what I thought on or about those dates.

    I was very excited about the Benfica match, especially for the last 20 minutes in which we seemed one inevitable goal away from a very winnable semi final.

    I tried to console myself with having mixed it with Europe's quasi elite after the derby.

    I was only too glad that we didn't have any European commitments in May to make the task of surviving any harder than it was anyway.

    Does that make me an inconsistent supporter ?
     
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  3. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    No because being a supporter is about having/showing emotion. Whilst Pardew should have/show emotion (and he does), it shouldn't cloud his long term thinking or strategy.

    Whilst we were in Europe and doing poor in the league he was happy to blame Europe, if he didn't want to be in it why not just play the kids in both legs vs Anzhi and concentrate on the league? Bottom line is Europe covered over the cracks of a poor league campaign for the majority of the season. Pardew used this to his advantage by saying he wanted us to win it, yet the moment we went out of it he was glad and even happier that we didn't qualify for Europe for the coming season.

    He either wants the club to be in Europe or he doesn't, where's the longevity behind his thinking???
     
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    We could dig this stuff up from our own lives, though, it's just we're not recorded. It's called heat of the moment. If the media worked in such a way where the only interviews were sent via email, so the respondent could consult with PR before replying, then it wouldn't happen. I'm not defending him, he's a fcking clown and an incompetent football manager. But he's human and nit-picking is irrelevant.

    Besides which it's not like anyone really believe this man to be an infallible God.
     
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    True, but we're not the manager of a club with millions of fans world wide. And if this was a one off then It could be accepted, but he probably made 10-20 contradictions last season which makes him seem more clueless than he actually is.
     
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    Don't see why he should be more single minded about it than I am.

    At the time of the Benfica match, relegation did not seem a real possibility and so Europe was what I was principally interested in. Now my first priority is getting the team to gel, develop a shape and put together a bit of consistent form in the league. Maybe a cup run for fun.

    I don't see the contradiction in either me thinking like this or Pardew doing so. If the world didn't change then neither should our opinions. But the world does and so should our opinions.

    You don't rate Pardew and I respect your opinion on that. I just think this criticism is uncalled for.
     
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    That's what the forum is all about, people expressing their opinions is fine as long as there's no foul language or personal attacks on other posters.
     
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    Fck you and your gammy eye.
     
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    Except for Jimileysbaldhead and Norma Snockers <laugh>
     
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    Months holiday for Nedders coming up.
     
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    Whitley, every time.
     
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    When he leaves and until then we will struggle off And on the pitch


    QUOTE=Sir Bobby Robson's jig of delight.;4871906]http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-art...eliver-stability-consistency-in-what-he-says/

    Came across this article and pretty much sums Pardew up for me last season.

    Some fans want stabillity and are happy that he's staying, I get that. My main problem is that he doesn't offer that to us, his goals/aims seem to change on a weekly basis (as do his team selections/tactics) and as a result I fear we're unlikely to progress with him in charge. He gets himself in to a hole by making stupid comments and then by trying to get out of said hole he goes and makes an even wildier statement.

    Hope I'm wrong and he goes on to build/create an identity for us this season, but the comments highlighted in bold in that article pretty much show that he hasn't got a long term plan of action on where he wants us to be and how he wants us to play.[/QUOTE]
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

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    I honestly don't give two hoots what managers say. They are all, to a man, hugely inconsistent. They play the press, get microphones stuck in front of them when the adrenalin is pumping, have emotionally charged jobs (if they care which Pards clearly does), etc etc. It all means very little. Inconsistencies in his first year interviews were never an issue. I could pick any PL manager from SAF to Wenger to Harry and find you a million contradictions. Does that mean they haven't got a plan? Of course not.

    I judge managers on what results they achieve. He did very well in his first season, and very poor in his second season. His results are inconsistent basically! Consistency in results can take a while though and we'll find out in time where we are heading under Pardew.

    If we are going to judge managers on what they say in the press and expect total consistency, then there isn't one out there for us. Poor article from The Mag for me, not unusual, and just more fostering of negative vibes through naive viewpoints on subjects with little importance to our actual progress.

    Hopefully he'll get back to the basics of his first season, when our successes were built on thorough planning and well thought out tactical plans. Give players a structure to work in and their natural ability to play football will take care of itself.
     
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