Saturday 8th June Daily Racing Thread

First time I've opened the batting but here goes. The Queen hasn't had a 2yo winner since Free Verse in 2011. Today I believe Musical Comedy will go in at Newmarket.

 

For those interested and to put it into perspective of how good Mossey Joe was, he won tonight in a time that was 6.7 seconds quicker than standard despite not coming off the bridle, crashing into the last fence and making the running himself on ground officially described as good. Harbour Court won over the same C+D earlier in the night carrying 4lb less in a 15 second slower time (readily enough as well) whilst the 126 rated That's Rhythm completed the same course and distance in a 12 second slower time MJ and was carrying 6lb less if taking into account the jockey's claim. That would very strongly suggest to me that both Chapoturgeon and Salsify ran to form and Mossey is just that much better than them. Absolute beast of a performance and it emphasises how much of machine he really is.

I also think it quells the fear that he got an easy lead (and needs one). The time suggests if something tried they couldn't have gone with him.

 

15:15 HAYDOCK=PASTORAL PLAYER 11\4
15:45 BEVERLEY=Maxentius 11\8
£20 double

 

Hello gents I am in Hong Kong for the day and am off to Sha Tin for the races -as you are all great tipsters I would really appreciate any tips you can give me? Appreciate is the other side of the world...

 

2.45 Chester

Chester Aristocrat 11/2

This looks a tricky little contest but I've been impressed with Chester Aristocrat's last two victories and I think there is a strong chance that a 5lb rise won't be enough to stop this progressive 4 year old from completing his hat trick. Having looked like he had levelled out at about a 70 rated horse as a 3 year old winning one of 10 starts last year, Chester Aristocrat has clearly progressed a lot over the winter having shot up 15lb in 4 starts this year which culminated in victories in his last two starts and given the way he won his last two races I think there is more to come as he has clearly appreciated the drop to 6f. Having narrowly gone down on his reappearance by a neck off a mark of 70 over 6f at Thirsk back in April, Chester Aristocrat ran a fine race in defeat off a mark of 74 when upped to 7f at that course when fading in the final furlong to finish 3rd in what was another really good effort. He then proceeded to land a gamble by the yard 2 starts back when dropped back to 6f as he held on well by 0.5L to score in a race where the front 3 were over 4L clear of the remainder of the field. He was then sent out under a 6lb penalty 9 days ago under today's pilot Jason Hart to again score by 0.5L under a front running ride at Hamilton but again I felt he scored authoritatively and was value for more than his margin of victory and I think a 5lb rise is more than fair. Under top weight today, Hart's 5lb claim looks priceless and he has proven he likes the track when not beaten that far when a lot of things went against him over a mile last year (ran here 3 times; too green on debut and pulled up after a furlong) and he's well enough drawn in stall 6 to hopefully sit just behind the leaders on the rail which is normally very important at the track. Eric Alston loves having winners here which the horses name suggests and if continuing his fine form at present I think he has a really good chance of getting up the hat trick up here.

3.30 Newmarket

No Heretic 4/1

I think No Heretic's 4lb rise for his success on Newmarket's other course at the Guineas meeting last month looks very lenient and given that David Simcock thought his charge would need the run and he sweated up badly I think this progressive 4 year old has a superb chance of landing this contest. Trained by Paul Cole as a 2 year old when progressive in Maidens and winning at the 3rd time of asking, No Heretic joined David Simcock for his 3 year old campaign where he continued his upward mobility in 5 starts for his Newmarket based connections. Having travelled extremely well on his seasonal reappearance last year before fading tamely, No Heretic ran a fine race in defeat over 12f at Newmarket off a mark of 80 in a race that has worked out well last August before going one better in fine style off a mark of 81 in an Amateur Riders contest at Epsom 3 weeks later when scoring by over 3L. That success saw him justly raised 8lb to a mark of 89 off which he was narrowly beaten in a blanket finish on his final start last season at Doncaster over 15f in a race that has worked out well as he went down by little more than a neck. Off the track 8 months and very weak in the market which suggests Simcock's claim he believed the run was needed, No Heretic ran out an impressive 1.25L winner over the 12f trip last month under William Buick off an unchanged mark. Having travelled into the race well, No Heretic hit the front inside the final 2f and despite wandering badly he recorded a cosy enough success and, given that race has historically been very decent, the 4lb rise looks more than lenient and I have full faith that this unexposed and improving 4 year old is more that able to win off his new rating of 93. The runner up that day Suegioo reopposes off 3lb better terms today but I am confident No Heretic can confirm the form against that rival who was race fit and I think it will take a very well handicapped horse if No Heretic runs to form. The Simcock yard are flying at the moment and with Buick again in the saddle I think No Heretic will take quite a bit of beating and I've had a decent bet in the hope he can continue his improvement.

7.45 Stratford

Rebel Du Maquis 11/2

If his recent Hunter Chasing exploits have restored his confidence as opposed to that being the level he is at now, the very easy winner of this race 2 years ago looks to be very well weighted off a 6lb lower mark and could take quite a bit of beating here. Back in the 2010-11 season, Rebel Du Maquis looked a very exciting chaser winning 4 of his 7 starts and the undoubted highlight of his career to date came when winning this corresponding race very easily on handicap debut off a mark of 142 under top weight by 11L in a race that is very strong form. He was then thought worthy of taking his chance in the Galway Plate off a mark of 153 after that where he finished a respectable 9th before he was sidelined for 14 months for one reason or another. He made a respectable reappearance when a 13L beaten 6th in a Listed Handicap off a mark of 146 back in September last year and after disappointing in the Betvictor handicap chase at Cheltenham back in November he's been sent Hunter Chasing so far this year. Beaten a head on his Hunter Chase debut over 3m in soft ground at Taunton back in March, Rebel Du Maquis fell in the Foxhunters at Aintree when still travelling well back in April before registering his first victory in the guts of 2 years last month when just lasting home by a short head under a forceful ride over 21f at Cheltenham. If comparing his Hunter Chase form to his mark of 136, he won't come anywhere in this but if those 3 runs were to rebuild his confidence then his current mark looks very nice and given that he is only 8 he certainly shouldn't be over the hill. Harry Derham takes the ride and a very useful 5lb off his back and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the shrewd Paul Nicholls has targeted this race for quite a while given that he clearly goes very well over this C+D. Although risks clearly come attached, if Rebel Du Maquis is anywhere near the horse he was when winning this 2 years ago then he's going to take a ridiculous amount of beating off a mark of 136 and although not one to go overboard with I'm certainly happy to take 11/2 for a horse representing in from and shrewd connections.

8.30 Newbury

Double Cee 11/2

Keeping this short and sweet but Warren Greatrex's 4 year old Double Cee really caught the eye LTO when staying on very strongly over 11.5f and,despite looking an absolute rogue that day, he clearly seems to have a lot of ability and Richard Hughes looks an eye catching booking as his predominantly National Hunt trainer steps him up to 13f today. A very progressive 3 year old for Richard Fahey last year which saw him win 3 times and rise from a mark of 58 to a peak rating of 77, Double Cee joined the excellent Warren Greatrex as a hurdler this year and despite being abysmal twice over hurdles and in a fibresand bumper, his trainer clearly thinks an awful lot of him given he was pitched into a Grade 2 on his hurdling debut. Returned to the flat back in April at Windsor, he was again awful when virtually pulled up but he all of a sudden bounced back to form last month at Lingfield with a highly encouraging if temperamental error. Prior to the race, Greatrex stated in his blog that they felt they were getting to the bottom of understanding him and his latest neck defeat off a mark of 70 certainly suggests they're close to harnessing what is clearly a lot of talent. Under Jim Crowley, Double Cee again looked a mess of a horse for the first part of the race looking outpaced and disinterested and his jockey had to administer a reminder 6f out. Despite being well off the pace turning into the home straight, Double Cee finally seemed to cop on as he stayed on to very nice effect late on to go down by a neck and although the winner was always holding him it was streets ahead of what he had shown in the past 7 months. He's been raised 3lb for that to a mark of 73 (3lb above his last win) but now finally looking a horse who's keen to race I think he'll kick on a lot from his latest run and he should definitely appreciate the step up to 1m5f today. Richard Hughes looks a very eye catching booking for one of the shrewdest yards around and I'm certain that a big run is expected by connections. Clearly a horse that comes with risks attached, I get the impression that Double Cee has a bucket load of raw ability and if the Champion jockey can harness all this 4 year old's potential it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he runs out a ready winner tonight.

 

Roto - great job with mossy Joe -your confidence in him was clear and resulted in beer tokens for me !! Cheers for the top tips . Off to chester today for a difficult card - will be backing chester aristocrat from.the low draw nd hoping he makes all - all other help greatly appreciated ! Thanks again .

 

Good luck today Ek. I like MEMORY STYX 2.10 Chester tissue 10-1. He has the plum draw but most importantly enough early pace to use it to good effect round here. Will appreciate dropping back to five and can possibly lead all the way.

 

Enjoy yourself. I went to Hong Kong not too long ago. Great place.

I'd imagine none of us have a clue about the racing over there though. Trust your own instincts LG.

 

Got a free bet in the first C4 race and have put it on the Queens horse, I think the race will go to a newcomer and this one comes from powerful connections. It could be an informative little race.

In the 2.05 I like Dazinski, who ran so well in the race last year and is much better on todays ground than he was at York. Dropped to a mark of 85 he can make his presence felt at 20/1

 

Enjoy the day LG

back your fav food numbers from your local takeawayl as susan papillon would say

An old custom to sell your daughter
Would you like number 23?
Leave your yens on the counter please
Hong kong garden

 

That was impressive by Tom Lee speaking German to that lad on The Morning Line!.....good thing he didn't mention the war.

The German horse in the 2.40 at Haydock (Nymphea) has an excellent chance of winning but preference is for Souviens Toi who finished 3rd on it's final start at Goodwood, hopefully she'll have better luck in running this time. But panellists on The Morning Line seem to think Prussian will win!

 

I have a free bet too Nass coutesy believe it or not of my better half backing the Derby winner using my account last weekend. I have gone on SUN CENTRAL but only because Mrs Haggas was waxing lyrical about the horse at Windsor last Monday night! Good luck to you with yours.

 

4.20 Beverley Rockweiler 13/2 e/a

Ready to win apparently. Not my usual type of race for a bet though so I'm on each way.

2.55 Newcastle Nocturn 9/2 e/w

This one's capable of taking before going on to bigger and better things.

2.05 Haydock De Rigueur 8/1 e/w

Cheek pieces, steadily improving, jockey does bare minimum weight.

 

The Kiwi's are losing to France but are still 1/7 in play to win the match. Crazy. They aren't so good they should be so prohibitively priced from a losing position.

France are 5/1.

 

What a try.

 

TO MUCH RACING FOR ME TO GET STUCK INTO TODAY SO IVE HAD A QUICK SHUFFTY AND HERE GOES


Rockweiller @ 13/2 (GP)
16:20 HANDICAP 1m 100y gone with BB pick here like the look of this one

Musical Comedy @ 11/2 (GP)
13:45 MAIDEN STAKES 6f good enough for Nass, Busty and HMQ Then good enough for me, intersting that Hughsey picks this one ?

Spiekeroog @ 7/1 (GP)
16:45 HANDICAP 1m 7f 177y Davy O sends 10 out today, this one maybe not his best but is due a win (or there abouts)

Pastoral Player @ 3/1 (GP)
15:15 TIMEFORM JURY STAKES 7f Glee back to winning ways after a barran spell and this looks a winner



so there we have it

Lucky 15 and Acca both EW (just in case)

stay frosty

 

God the French are ****e in defence. I'd love to know their missed tackle count.

 

Great idea to have a quick interview with the players at the half. I'd love that in English sports.

 

Deacon Blues has been retired.

 

Beautifully bred that one Stick


2.40 Haydock Ambivalent 3/1 looks more than fair, I think she is the class horse in the race.