Bad times ahead..

Taking the sting out of the tail by saying it. No need for anyother poster to say it then.
Anyway it must have worked as within 10 minutes HJ released his statement

 

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but the board deserve credit by not being held to ransom with regards to wage demands.

 

So if he is not contracted to two clubs at the same time how can he have signed a contract and taken a medical with us ??

A pre-contract may hold details that are individual to the club and player, and the level of water tightness may well vary.

A pre-contract by definition is as follows "
A club may sign a pre-contract with a player while he is still with another club, by which the player agrees to move to the club at a future date, for example, after his contract with his current club expires."

In fairness ive not seen many examples of them being broken but im not sure how it works if the player decides to stay at his current club

 

Yes because the pre contract is designed to protect against a third party becoming involved in the transfer dealings,like Chelsea did with man utds obi transfer it doesn't say anything about the player chosing to remain at his current club instead

 

Well, now you're fishin', Norway... How often have you ever seen this problem?
There is the John Obi Mikel-situation, where Chelsea had to pay up, because he already had signed a pre-contract, but have you ever come across something similar? A club signing a player before his original contract expires happens all the time and this is the first time I have ever heard it questioned!

Maarten Stekelenburg has just signed for Fulham. He is still contracted to Roma because the transfer window is yet to open. And yet he has signed a contract with Fulham. How is this possible then...?

 

This is a very intresting question, if it meant Swansea signing a top level striker who wanted 50k a week but the signing would mean us being mid table at worst would that be bad business or good business ?? Strikers are normally the highest paid players at most clubs so why should somebody like Negredo be on the same as Ash Williams ?

Its a great talking point I think because I feel most players would be accepting of one top class player earning more. Roony was top earner at utd,ahead of Ferdinand gigs,scholes,nani etc . Henry at Arsenal was top dog, Spurs are prepared to do the same with Bale etc,etc.

Surely the time will come when one player needs to be on top whack to sign? dressing room unrest would be the biggest problem IMO, but it works elsewhere so why not here ?

 

That's easy because its a pre contract not a full contract registered by the new club

What happens if he takes a medical and fails it? do the club still sign him for 3 yrs ? all contracts are subject to medicals ,pre contracts are designed to nullify 3rd party intrests

Canas looks done and dusted to me but people are reading the spin and not the facts, go on the official web site and see how they describe this announcement "a pre contract" which means he is not officially our player and he hasn't yet completed his medical

Plenty are prepared to slag off the press when the news/spin is something they don't like but when its news they do like the details go out the window for some reason, a positive spin by the club to counter the negative press that's what this story is

Canas looks a done deal but is not a done deal yet

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/work

The Vice Chairman speaks , no real surprises or changes expected .

 

Player unrest would be a problem imo, especially if the new guy would be on say 20k a week more than the likes of Michu. Maybe they could add bonuses into the contract by paying the new striker a certain amount per goal scored.
As you say Norway, we are in need of a top class striker, and you have to pay the premiem for them.

 

Player unrest may well be a problem, but for example if somebody like Daivd Villa would sign for the swns on 50k a week would they really complain about the money side of things? our bonus scheme means all players make good cash if they finish high in the league so everyone wins really.

The problem is that it does eventually make players ask for more I guess.

 

Looks like everybody is working in the best interest of the SWANS , you must be gutted !

 

Matron let you out tonight FFS?

 

I can see where you are coming from but there is nothing to say in the Pre-Contract that the move is subject to a medical being successful, EU laws protect both companies (current and new) involved and the employee as well meaning the employee cannot just stop working on his current contract but also has to honour the new contract to it's terms and conditions, likewise the new company cannot just walk away from the Pre-Contract and the player cannot sign an additional contract or an extension to his current after the Pre-Contract is signed. Back out clauses may exist such a medical examination or even any legal issues unrelated to the employment, for instance the new club can back out if the player fails his medical and the player can back out if the club and all it's directors are being sent to prison for fraud and match fixing or any other serious crime as it could negatively impact his future employment viability (that's a security risk in some non-sport industries but the employment law cannot discriminate between a defence contractor and goalkeeper for instance).

So the medical could be 1-2 July then if all good, he signs. These things are not usually broken because they are usually water tight as the EU make most terms and conditions mandatory, "cannot do this, must do that, but not in this way etc etc etc." it's why FIFA's resistance to get involved in the Obi Mikel case last all of a few days after the EU told them they either resolve the case by the law as they are the industry regulator for football, at the very extreme end certain members within FIFA would face jail for not upholding this law and the EU would have jailed Blatter himself if he continued to say FIFA would stay out of it. In reality the EU themselves are forced to jail senior personnel as the law they created instructs them to be severely harsh and regulatory bodies can sometimes not be fined as the regulatory body may reside outside the EU but it has senior figures within the EU as ambassadors, hence only action possible is legal justice... Hence FIFA being is Switzerland, EEC and not EU, but subject to EU Law under EEC agreements, FIFA and it's employees cannot be fined, only extradited and tried in The Hague.

Phew, it is hard writing this on an iPhone!!!!

 

Project, did you know there's a free iPhone app for not606 ?

Much easier using it that's what I do

 

I say we "throw Jenkins in the dugout", right Phil?

Christ, you have to laugh or you'll cry around this board, I tell you.

 

Yup just pig sick of a certain posters negative aspect of all things SWANS, how long do we need to put up with his cr*P ?

 

Didn't know Dilli, will check it out, thanks

 

I think that your first question was the bit I was trying to tease out...in term of thinking what was the transfer pot expected and then to ask where the money was coming from. Some of the guys on here (and on other teams' sites) are suggesting 5/6/7 players that are needed which even at low fees of , say 5 million, can soon mount up. I haven't seen any accounts so don't know what cash balances are held.....not much I would guess. The first answer to my post was suggesting that cash balances would fund the transfer and then future earnings will fund wages. Seems sensible indeed but it then really comes down to that key figure of cash held. Money from previous transfers out are not likely to be kicking around still since they probably go into the overall cash pot. I suppose I was trying to get a feel for what might be possible.
As to your lat question, I am not hugely used to posting on others' boards and one can never tell what reception one might get. Have to say I am extremely pleased with what I have seen and am grateful......I'm too old to get into infighting.

 

I would anticipate £15-£20 million being made available to Mr. Laudrup for the acquisition of new players. But what the hell do I know,that's just a wild guess,and Mr.Huw Jenkins may suggest I get certified for even suggesting such figures.

The bottom line here is that nobody knows how much will be spent, or how many new faces will arrive.

Patience brings it's own rewards,so we will have to wait and see.

I can understand your concern with regards your "reception" on this Forum. Infighting can erupt at any time,but if you come in peace,that's what you will get in return.

So,Frankfurt,glad you are "extremely pleased" with your "reception" here. Come visit again.

 

Were you one of the Jenkins Sycophantic Acolytes I had trouble with when I did that thread under Sousa, on the old BBC 606?......................

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