Loan Policy

Do the the powers that be at Newcastle still have a policy of not bringing in loan players?

If it is still the case what are your opinions on this? Would you bring in a loan player if the right player became available?

Personally I can't see what the real issue is with it. You only have to look at West Brom and Lukaku to see what benefits it can bring. Yes I know they are unlikely to ever be able to sign him and he probably won't be there next season but what harm did it do them?

It's obviously preferable to own the players that are playing for you but if our targets that we want to bring don't materialise, rather than go for a lesser quality player or try and muddle through with the players we have got until the next transfer window, why not bring in a loan player? Just doesn't seem to make sense to me to totally exclude bringing in loan players.

 

Remember, NUFC is a balance sheet. Players are assets, we are not in the business of loaning anything as it has no tangible, measurable long term value, it's too variable. So whilst loaning Lukaku, for example, MIGHT gain us a few extra PL places, it's by no means certain. However, BUYING Sissoko for £1.8m will certainly (or as near as dammit) yield NO loss, only profit.

 

God Paredw would loan out players like Reo Cocker ffs

 

I'm not saying it's the first choice option. But isn't it a better option than leaving a big hole in your team if you can't buy a player you need. Why limit your options?

Yes loan players aren't assets in the financial sense but they can definitely be assets on the pitch even if it is only for one season.

 

Hey, I don't disagree with it, though it has to be used sensibly. However, if we have accepted we're nowhere near the top 4 - which the management team seem to think - then why aren't we using their huge resources to bolster our own squad?

I just try to see it from a NU£C point of view...

 

I think you'll find our loan policy will change dramatically now we've got Wonga on board.

 

We bring someone in, but only for one month and at the end of the month send the player back 2000% better?

 

You've got it, however only if we get rid of Pardew....

 

Goes without saying. All positive comments should have the addendum "...but only if we get rid of Pardew" and all negative ones should include "...and it's all because of Pardew".

 

Most of our lot are saying a point blank no to loans, They don't want us developing other teams players which is valid but in the run up to september and if the squad is looking a bit thin then I don't see the problem, I fact it's a no brainer for me.

Just imagine what last season could have been for you lot if you'd brought in some loan players and given your squad a bit more depth?

 

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I am strongly against loans in general. I think if you are a championship or lower division side then they can be a useful way of getting quality without paying an arm and a leg. However they are just disruptive in a lot of cases in that they are a short term solution and a waste of budget.

With someone like Lukaku you'd have to make an exception and I'm sure we would. However we could not have got him this year as Chelsea would not have loaned him to us, and even next season they might consider us in a false position. Its all very well people pointing to WBA etc but how they are viewed is different to ourselves, rightly or wrongly.

So if an unbelievable opportunity is there then I think the club would consider it (like HBA), but they might be few and far between for a club like us. You could look to other leagues though and big European clubs who can often have vast squads. We could do the odd one but really you want to buying. Its like buying or renting a house i.e. you want to be the owner 99% of the time.

 

Yeah but if the right house isn't available and you need to move right now you don't buy an alternative house that doesn't meet your requirements do you? You rent for 6 months while you wait for the right house to come available.

 

Hmm personally I'd buy something I could make a quick buck on and then buy the one I want in 6 months! Hate dead money.

 

Not in this economy you won't - like NUFC, you'd rather just do without. No-one can really argue against that policy, not with any level of vehemency - I remember one Summer one of our only signings was Rossi from Man U - the outcry was unbelievable!! I know, I led it.

 

fair do, but you then run the risk of not being able sell at a profit or being stuck with an unsaleable asset if the market changes or you encounter unforeseeable problems. You could end up putting in more then you get out. plus you have to keep that asset for a year minimum.

Ha ha no right or wrong only different ways.

 

You'd be surprised, even in this economy there is always a way. Plus you can buy rock bottom And you can still get let to buy. Provided you buy the right property, it'll never be an albatross, only an asset. You just have to be more selective and take a little more time.

I'm not saying I would never do a loan though in football, but I can't see much value in anything but high quality. If you get a HBA, Rose or Lukaku, I think it is justified.

 

The loan system in general is floored back in the day it was used for young lads going down the leagues for experience and emergencies due to injuries etc.

However nowadays its all so wrong, look at man city loaning out a string full of players to premiership teams take adebayor when he was on loan at spurs ever goal he scored against man city's rivals benefited man city's title chances and support their goal difference how can that be right its just wrong. There are loads of other examples too


QUOTE=Beardsley My Hero;4838736]Do the the powers that be at Newcastle still have a policy of not bringing in loan players?

If it is still the case what are your opinions on this? Would you bring in a loan player if the right player became available?

Personally I can't see what the real issue is with it. You only have to look at West Brom and Lukaku to see what benefits it can bring. Yes I know they are unlikely to ever be able to sign him and he probably won't be there next season but what harm did it do them?

It's obviously preferable to own the players that are playing for you but if our targets that we want to bring don't materialise, rather than go for a lesser quality player or try and muddle through with the players we have got until the next transfer window, why not bring in a loan player? Just doesn't seem to make sense to me to totally exclude bringing in loan players.[/QUOTE]