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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Teessidemackem, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    <ok> cheers for the tips mate!
     
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  2. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Buns of steel, pump iron, blast my quads.
     
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  3. JammySAFC

    JammySAFC Well-Known Member

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    Depends what you want to achieve matey, always more likely to achieve the results you want if your doing because you want to shift a few pounds, or doing it on a whim. I play hockey twice a week (5 when i was at uni) and that meant i could eat anything i wanted, was grand. If you want to bulk up a bit then changes to your diet is just as important as a workout.
     
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  4. Lostinvegas

    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

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    The above is very true.

    Don't believe a lot of the crap in magazines and don't spend loads of money on supplements as most of them are pointless and you can get the same results from eating right.

    Try and focus on the 3 main excersizes Squat, Bench and Deadlift.

    Also remember everyone is different, what works for 1 person will not necessarily work for another.

    Avoid drugs at all cost you will end up ****ing yourself up completely.

    I have been training since I was 16 and am 34 now. I mainly trained for powerlifting competitions. Now I just train to keep in shape.
     
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  5. MrRAWhite

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    As has been stated earlier, keep off the steroids because they undoubtedly carry a price. To increase your testosterone levels naturally, high protein/high cholesterol foods, especially raw eggs are recommended. And to remove the female hormone oestrogen from your system, which is often found in chemicals used to preserve fresh vegetables, well washed broccoli and spinach are recommended by the latest research.
     
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  6. Parmomackem

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    Cool man, you seem to know what your doing if still able to bench an impressive 80 with a deserved break.
    Keep at it and work hard. Eat well and avoid the drugs.
    I got to exercise4less in thornaby but thinking of going to splash.
    Also have a room with a bench ( does legs and raised aswell as normal ), pull up bar and a bike for me cardio! lol.
    Lads i use to go with moved to Scotland and one goes to splash so work out with strangers atm haha. Does work though as can push harder sometimes.
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Only if you are reading lies.

    I've never been described as "squiggy" whatever that is, but I can do 8 reps of kettlebell handstand press ups, without creatine supplement when I'm off cycle I'd do about 5/6.

    Creatine does help your muscle cells retain water, which is good for performance. A simple cycle off it will see you 'lean down' after 5/6 weeks on it. It's nothing like the bloated appearance you'll get from sticking a Sus & Deca stack in your arse cheeks though.
     
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  8. Parmomackem

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    You can take something called Liv52 if your wanting to take a tablet such as creatine and so on.
    Any consumabel tablet like this that enchances your body are toxic, Liv52 is a liver defender tablet so people take these to help.
     
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  9. bristolcat

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    I have taken creatine twice . First time I was about 12 years ago . Ian wright was in the paper singing its praise`s . First time I took it made made me as big as I have ever been arms, shoulders, chest I couldnt belive the effect it had on me . But for me the mucsles were soft to the touch and not rock solid as they should be (squiggy) . Finshed the cycle then lost a bit of muscle size .What was the point of taken it as you say you lose it when you stop taken it . I did use it again a couple of years later and it had no effect on me . Did a bit of research on it and found it happens to other people (not all) first time great second time nothing .If effects people differently . as I said it depends on what you read or belive . I belive whats the point of taking something spend money on it and you dont really know 100pc that it isnt doing you any harm. Its like the pump you get in the gym some people train to get themselves pumped up for an hour or so then they go back to there normal size . why not train so your strength is permanet and your mucsels are permantly solid .
     
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  10. bristolcat

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    there really is no need to take any **** . I can understand why BB do .But for the majority of people who go to the gym they aint going to be pro, amature BB . Save your money dont give it to the pushers .
     
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  11. Parmomackem

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    Yep I agree the only thing i was drinking while working out was Sci-MX protein drinks with creatine in it. I thought it tasted delicious and not to sure if it had any bonus to my performance. In the end I just drank plenty of water and worked out at the pace my body would let me.
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

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    Bristolcat, I get what you're saying and each person will have an individual "stack" that suits their needs. I'd love to be able to get results using just determination and good balanced meals like you, for no other reason than it would save me a fortune!

    I don't agree that you don't need anything as far as supplements go. You may be blessed with a freakishly well-oiled machine of a body but most people who train do not naturally produce the level of chemicals required to get where they need to be without supplements. The body naturally produces creatine anyhow, so you're always going to drop off if you stop training when your body decides to start dumping it's stores. Adding more creatine simply stops your body from starting to use your muscle cells for energy whilst training, especially on low carb or no carb diets. The chemical allows for you to push out the extra few reps, anybody who trains to reps failure will swear by this stuff unless they're on doses of Dianabol.

    Some people want quick results and it's scientifically impossible to get results quickly whilst using just regular food intake as a diet. Protein in liquid form enters the muscle in 1/5th of the time that eating a chicken breast would, so when you're talking about 15-20 minute windows after lifting to get optimum results, people are going to go for liquid shakes every time. My protein is consumed 30 mins before the gym 50g whey isolate, then the post shake is taken in my blender to the gym, it's in my stomach before I leave the gym, even before the boost has dropped off.

    The only recognised side effect with creatine is possibly kidney stones, but if somebody is training hard and not taking in enough water to stop this happening then they're an idiot. When I cycle off creatine, I drop anything between 3 and 5 pounds and I generally feel better for it.

    Thanks for clearing up the "Squiggy" phrase.
     
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  13. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    My question is why?

    Bloated ****ers, nowt more.

    Getting in shape is one thing, but to look like an inflated ***get doorman is another.
     
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  14. Darth Plagueis

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    It's hard work, you need to have the determination to it.

    Personally, I just prefer working on a treadmill and stay slim and healthy.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

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    Yeah, and they always, ALWAYS, skip ****ing leg day. Upper body of a fully grown adult male Bison then the legs of a preying mantis. (I assume you mean roid junkies!)
     
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  16. bristolcat

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    I gived up years ago trying to get bigger .I`m only a short arse . Befor I took creatine my chest for example could`nt get past 39inch . Almost striaght away when I took creatine belive it or not my chest expanded to 44in which at 5ft6 is quite big .when I finshed the cycle I maintained 42-43in chest been the same ever since . I give that credit to creatine .Dont know how it happened for me to be able to have a chest size at 42-43 by just watching what I EAT and a protine drink .Didnt change my workout routine or eating habbits before during or after my first encounter of creatine . Used it again and nothing really happend apart from pissing a lot .It was a few years ago when I looked into creatine so it was probbly kiddneys and not the liver damage what I read about :emoticon-0148-yes: I know a lot of people who take all kinds of different gear (not steriods ) and they dont really look any better than me .Lets be honest just because you look good on the outside it doesnt mean you are fit on the inside .If creatine works for you and you are happy with the results great .I was just sharing my experince with creatine with others .Am I pleased I Took creatine yes would I take it again no. Horse`s for courses and all that .I am just not convinced that internaly it is doing me any good(any more ) <cheers>
     
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  17. Lostinvegas

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    My advice would be don't bother with any supplements or drugs all they will really do is lighten your wallet. Sort your diet and training out first.

    The marketing people are great at making people believe this magic drink makes you bigger and stronger. A lot of the time its the placebo effect, people train harder because they "think" they are taking something that will help them. So they get bigger.

    Its everyone's personal choice what they do with their body and how they spend their money. I would say make an informed choice if you can.

    If you really don't know where to start with training my advice is to concentrate on the 3 main powerlifting lifts: Squat, Deadlift and Benchpress. http://www.bdfpa.co.uk/about/index.html is a good place to start.
     
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  18. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    I'm mid-forties, five foot nine and have shed just under two stone in the past sixteen months to get down to 12 stone. It's been a lot of hard work and sacrifice but I feel better now than I've ever felt. I rarely drink booze, eat lots of protein (and take whey protein) and exercise four times a week. I was in Spain on holiday last week and for the first time in years I wasn't embarrassed at being a little porky. The porkiness has turned into definition.

    If I eat Indian takeaways I can feel the weight going back on. The sacrifice is not eating them.

    I'd encourage anyone to take up more exercise, stop smoking and look after themselves.
     
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  19. Dorset

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    A very important point that everyone seems to have missed is rest. You will gain absolutely nothing from overtraining muscle groups. I train 5 days a week (Monday to Friday) for 60-75 minutes, working two muscle groups per day to prevent overtraining.

    I start every session with 15 minutes on the exercise bike to warm up and end every session with 15 minutes on the rowing machine to warm down.

    Mon: Biceps & Abs
    Tue: Delts & Traps
    Wed: Chest & Back
    Thu: Triceps & Abs
    Fri: Legs & Lats
    Sat & Sun: Rest

    It is very important to not get fixated with weight. You achieve far more by choosing weight that you can rep between 8-12 per set and maintain form i.e no swinging about in order to lift the weight. Conduct each rep slowly and try to lower the weight by at least twice the time it took to raise it.

    Take no notice of people who say not to use the machines, because they are talking absolute crap! To exercise, you need to provide resistance to the muscles you are working on. This can be achieved with free weights, body weight, elastics, springs, machines, or even a door frame.

    My advice would be to take full advantage of the gym machines to learn to lift correctly and maintain form. Once you have got the hang of it you can then introduce free weights to your plan. About 75% of my total training week is completed on the machines, because I can get just as good a workout with them as using free weights and in turn reduce my chances of picking up an injury, which is much more likely to occur with free weights.

    Lastly, if you are wanting to bulk up you must be consuming at least 2700 calories per day. Your muscles will not grow if your calorie intake is insufficient, so make sure that your diet is up to the job. As for supplements, I use a protein shake that has 40 grams of protein plus additional amino acids per scoop. One 45 minutes before training and one 30-45 minutes after training.
     
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  20. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    Anyone else exercise at home? I've got an exercise bike, dumbbells, punch bag, skipping ropes, twist board, press-up aids, exercise mat and loads more.
    Working out on a punch bag is very tiring.

    Oh and a pair of Nike running shoes which cost £45 which often carry me off on a five mile jog.

    I don't see the point in spending a small fortune to keep trim.
     
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