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O/T The Death Penalty

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by DAPARKERSAFC, May 30, 2013.

  1. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    ^^^

    When im supreme leader ;-) this waste of skin would be off to the island.

    We need a complete overhaul of the justice system. Criminals thrive in this society because the police are let down by a weak court system. Time after time burglars, thieves are getting suspended sentences or supervision orders. Build more prisons get a justice system with a back bone make prisons punishment with the bare minumum not tv's computers gym etc.
     
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  2. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    no to the death penalty.
    yes to life ie never get out.

    purpose built prisons where they can rot in solitary for however many years they have left.
     
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  3. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    The laws are there, we need to change to hard judges.
    Far too much notice taken of the do-gooders imo.
    I also think the faceless members of these parole boards should be held more personally responsible for the behaviour of the lunatics they say are ok to be let out.
     
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  4. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    Very good point. Why end the suffering of Mark Bridger by killing him, when he is going to have the mental picture of what he did to April Jones forever in his mind torturing him for the rest of his days? Not to mention the treatment he is going to get as a child killer from other prisoners.
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I feel that if somebody has the stomach to go and chop up a kid like some butcher dicing a pig, in broad daylight then I want an absolute guarantee that he's never, ever going to step foot into society again.

    Forget all this stupid fantasy bullshit about him getting filled in for the rest of his life in prison, he'll be banged up with others who have done crimes equally or in some cases far worse than he has. Mark Bridger could end up in prison in the next cell to Michael Adebolajo and spend the rest of their days playing PS3 games with Ian Huntley, whilst down the corridor in solitary confinement chained to a wall is 'the fantasy solution', Charles Bronson. Like it or not good behaviour in prison gets you off the hook big time. So whilst we can all fill our minds with garbage that some hard headed scouse nutter might walk over and jib one of these bastards, the realists will acknowledge that these people are likely to be protected from every angle from people who want to hurt them.

    How many scars adorned the face of the Bulger killers when they were released? None. They got maximum protection at every level and were integrated amongst people who like them, had no conscience or moral values. Prisoners nowadays come out of prison, realise they can't hack the real world and end up re-offending just to get back to their cushy lifestyle they had whilst 'behind bars'.

    If it was up to me, I'd have them in a holding pen waiting to donate their organs to people who might need them. When they run out of organs you turn the lights out and toss them in a skip, showing them the same level of respect they showed their victims.
     
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  6. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you take the hard line? <whistle>

    On a serious note, prisoners can't be protected 24/7 in prison. For example, Ian Huntley has been attacked several times during his time in a so called maximum security prison. I don't think anyone is saying that these lowlife are going to get a daily kicking from some big bruiser. My satisfaction comes from them having to live their life in fear, knowing that at some point in time a nutter is going to come at them with a home made knife to try and cut their eyes out like one of the inmates tried with Huntley.
     
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  7. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    I'm in favour of it 100%. Why should the taxpayers fork out to keep monster alive?

    All those against, just think if it affected your life.
     
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  8. froggy1973

    froggy1973 Well-Known Member

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    Against for all the reasons stated. Terry the Jamie Bulger killers had new Identities so the sins didn't know who they were! I do think that for the most serious crimes life should mean life.
     
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    Believe me mate, they did.
     
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  10. HorsleyHillCat

    HorsleyHillCat Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for the death penalty, I don't care how it's done either!, people who can treat children in such a vile manner do not deserve to kept in prison at my expense, if a dog bit a child or anyone else, the dog would then most likely be put to sleep
     
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  11. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Last night a bunch of youths were on the street and a man passed them by. He looked nervous and foolishly showed fear. The second he got passed them they turned on him shouting **** and Nonce. Moral of the story is People tell dangerous lies which which can get the innocent into trouble. The prosecution doesn't care if someone is innocent or guilty. They're hired to win a conviction regardless of the truth. How can you hang someone when the justice system is setup like this? It would be reckless and irresponsible. Derek Bentley was essentially hung for trespass. How would you like one of your family to be hung under similar circumstances?
     
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  12. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    The same Derek Bentley who attempted burglary armed with a sheath knife and spiked knuckle duster and knew full well that his accomplice had a gun and live ammunition.
     
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  13. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

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    Death is too kind for the type of people we are talking about. Lock em up..no privileges, feed them and keep em clean and let them meditate about their crime for the rest of their life.
     
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  14. MrRAWhite

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    i agree that we mollycoddle prisoners too much in this country.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Lol.
     
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  16. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    yep that's the one, the one with learning difficulties that got led astray and was hung because somebody shot someone else. Despite trying to reason with the killer his words were twisted on the stand and he wasn't mentally capable of holding his own.

    So do you say breaking and entering with a dangerous weapon is grounds to be hung?
     
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  17. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Well that could lead us down a whole new avenue.

    Should the farmer who killed a burglar have been jailed?
     
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  18. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion yes, he had a history of mistreating guns and parts of his story were scientifically disproved. Not saying that a person shouldn't defend their own home, it's just every case has to be judged on it own merits.

    Ultimately the law protects innocent people from being executed. I don't believe sacrificing innocent people just to make sure those who definitely deserve it, get what they deserve, is right.
     
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    What about like I said, if Mark bridger had been caught in the act chopping up that little girl. What you not want him hung? I would, publically as well.
     
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    A mans home is his castle, I think people should be able to defend their homes by whatever means neccessary.
     
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